LA Rams To Receive 3 Compensatory Picks In 2017 NFL Draft

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While the NFL world is fixated on the weekend’s slate of playoff games as we open the Wild Card Round of the 2017 NFL Playoffs, we’ve got some good news in an early piece from Over the Cap today looking at their projected compensatory picks in the 2017 NFL Draft.

Their initial projections have the Los Angeles Rams receiving three compensatory picks:
  • A third-round pick for losing CB Janoris Jenkins to the New York Giants
    A fourth-round pick for losing S Rodney McLeod to the Philadelphia Eagles
    A sixth-round pick for losing DT Nick Fairley to the New Orleans Saints
Of course, the key is the projected third-round pick for the Jackrabbit. The terms of the Rams’ trade with the Tennessee Titans to acquire the #1 overall pick of the 2016 NFL Draft which the Rams used on rookie franchise QB Jared Goff include the Rams’ first-round pick and a third-round pick in the 2017 NFL Draft. If the Rams receive a third-round compensatory pick, the compensatory pick goes to the Titans and the Rams keep their natural third-round selection. Otherwise, the Titans would get the Rams’ natural third-rounder. Suffice to say, we should be rooting for the Janoris compensatory pick to be a third rounder, which is the highest a compensatory pick can be awarded.

Tossing in the fourth- and sixth-round additions helps beef up the Rams’ stocks in the draft. Using OTC’s projections, here’s a rough projection of what the Rams’ 2017 NFL Draft order would look like:
Projected LA Rams 2017 NFL Draft Order
Rd Pk (Rd) Pk (Ovr)
2 5 37
3 5 69
4 5 110
4 36 141
5 5 151
6 5 191
6 36 222
7 5 232

You can see the impact of the Goff trade and how severely it limits the Rams’ immediate ability to upgrade the roster. Just one pick in the first 68 and just two picks in the first 109. Whoever is coaching this team is going to have a massive challenge on his hands to improve the quality of output without a ton of modified input roster-wise.

Nonetheless, it’s looking like a sizable draft haul to work with albeit one that might be a bit thin at the top.



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I like it!!!!!! Thats a butt load of picks considering.


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And.. as I like to mention.. *at least* $44 million in cap space.


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Dick84 wrote:And.. as I like to mention.. *at least* $44 million in cap space.
Yes that's pretty decent amount of cap space, and hopefully we have GM and Coach that's competent enough to get the most out of our picks and land some valuable FA.


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UplandRam wrote:While the NFL world is fixated on the weekend’s slate of playoff games as we open the Wild Card Round of the 2017 NFL Playoffs, we’ve got some good news in an early piece from Over the Cap today looking at their projected compensatory picks in the 2017 NFL Draft.

Their initial projections have the Los Angeles Rams receiving three compensatory picks:
  • A third-round pick for losing CB Janoris Jenkins to the New York Giants
    A fourth-round pick for losing S Rodney McLeod to the Philadelphia Eagles
    A sixth-round pick for losing DT Nick Fairley to the New Orleans Saints
Of course, the key is the projected third-round pick for the Jackrabbit. The terms of the Rams’ trade with the Tennessee Titans to acquire the #1 overall pick of the 2016 NFL Draft which the Rams used on rookie franchise QB Jared Goff include the Rams’ first-round pick and a third-round pick in the 2017 NFL Draft. If the Rams receive a third-round compensatory pick, the compensatory pick goes to the Titans and the Rams keep their natural third-round selection. Otherwise, the Titans would get the Rams’ natural third-rounder. Suffice to say, we should be rooting for the Janoris compensatory pick to be a third rounder, which is the highest a compensatory pick can be awarded.

Tossing in the fourth- and sixth-round additions helps beef up the Rams’ stocks in the draft. Using OTC’s projections, here’s a rough projection of what the Rams’ 2017 NFL Draft order would look like:
Projected LA Rams 2017 NFL Draft Order
Rd Pk (Rd) Pk (Ovr)
2 5 37
3 5 69
4 5 110
4 36 141
5 5 151
6 5 191
6 36 222
7 5 232

You can see the impact of the Goff trade and how severely it limits the Rams’ immediate ability to upgrade the roster. Just one pick in the first 68 and just two picks in the first 109. Whoever is coaching this team is going to have a massive challenge on his hands to improve the quality of output without a ton of modified input roster-wise.

Nonetheless, it’s looking like a sizable draft haul to work with albeit one that might be a bit thin at the top.
Greg Robinson was a 1st round pick........ Is he a major star or more of a bust at this point..... :?: See high picks don't always translate to be a Stars...... :?: If Goff wins us 2 or 3 SB's does it really matter how much we gave up 2 get him....... it took Brett Favre 7 years to finally win the SB....



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If the Jenkins pick turns out to be a 3rd rounder vs a 4th rounder, in a deep draft that's the difference between a late 2nd and a late 3rd. Huge difference. Of course, if not used well it makes no difference.



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If the Jenkins pick turns out to be a 3rd rounder vs a 4th rounder, in a deep draft that's the difference between a late 2nd and a late 3rd. Huge difference. Of course, if not used well it makes no difference.



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So two extra players.
An extra 4th and 6th.

They need to pick well.
Hope we get a coach and GM that pick football players and not great athletes with little football skills in the later rounds.
I'd rather hear that he runs a 4.75 but catches everything thrown his way, than he runs a 4.4 and all we need to do is teach him to catch the ball.



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Kindablue wrote:I'd rather hear that he runs a 4.75 but catches everything thrown his way, than he runs a 4.4 and all we need to do is teach him to catch the ball.
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Kindablue wrote: Hope we get a coach and GM that pick football players and not great athletes with little football skills in the later rounds.
I'd rather hear that he runs a 4.75 but catches everything thrown his way, than he runs a 4.4 and all we need to do is teach him to catch the ball.
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Kindablue wrote:So two extra players.
An extra 4th and 6th.

They need to pick well.
Hope we get a coach and GM that pick football players and not great athletes with little football skills in the later rounds.
I'd rather hear that he runs a 4.75 but catches everything thrown his way, than he runs a 4.4 and all we need to do is teach him to catch the ball.
I don't.

Neither are good approaches.


I'm looking, at WR, for undersized and fast guys. Guys who don't fit the "ideal" of WR when it comes to size.

Both these guys are about 5-10 and 180... I'm going FOIA release style... Neither taken in first two rounds...

(redacted) is an extremely productive receiver from a relatively smaller level football program that could use another year in college to continue to develop physically. He is undersized and will initially struggle with the physical aspects of the game at the next level. He generally has lined up out of the slot and would have trouble with his release against some of the physical cornerbacks at the next level if he lines up on the line of scrimmage. He is explosive off the line and will show a good burst out of his speed cuts but needs work on his hard cuts and underneath routes. He has decent hands but it looks like the ball gets big on him at times and he traps too many passes in his body.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS (redacted) has a really nice combination of quickness and speed. Has been extremely productive during his college career. Shows very impressive initial quickness when exploding off the line. Displays good agility as a route-runner and with the ball after the catch.
WEAKNESSES Lacks size. Not tall and does not possess enough bulk at this time. Needs to add strength to more effectively beat press coverage and battled for the ball in the air. Route running skills could use some refinement. Needs to become more consistent catching the ball in a crowd.

next..

(redacted) was the star of an emerging Florida International program. He has had a ton of production there despite his size, and is an athletic mover who has the speed to take the top off a defense. He is good off the line and has fourth-round value as a receiver and return specialist.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS (redacted) is an explosive returner who uses good judgment when fielding the ball. As a receiver he is a deep threat who can create separation when running deep due to his superior long speed. He is a decent route runner who works well out of the slot.
WEAKNESSES (redacted) is undersized and it shows when he blocks in the run game. He has a tough time breaking down and getting hands on a defensive back and using strength to hold on thereafter. He is a deep threat and has production there but is not a reliable short-to-intermediate throwing option.


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Dick84 wrote:
Kindablue wrote:So two extra players.
An extra 4th and 6th.

They need to pick well.
Hope we get a coach and GM that pick football players and not great athletes with little football skills in the later rounds.
I'd rather hear that he runs a 4.75 but catches everything thrown his way, than he runs a 4.4 and all we need to do is teach him to catch the ball.
I don't.

Neither are good approaches.


I'm looking, at WR, for undersized and fast guys. Guys who don't fit the "ideal" of WR when it comes to size.

Both these guys are about 5-10 and 180... I'm going FOIA release style... Neither taken in first two rounds...

(redacted) is an extremely productive receiver from a relatively smaller level football program that could use another year in college to continue to develop physically. He is undersized and will initially struggle with the physical aspects of the game at the next level. He generally has lined up out of the slot and would have trouble with his release against some of the physical cornerbacks at the next level if he lines up on the line of scrimmage. He is explosive off the line and will show a good burst out of his speed cuts but needs work on his hard cuts and underneath routes. He has decent hands but it looks like the ball gets big on him at times and he traps too many passes in his body.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS (redacted) has a really nice combination of quickness and speed. Has been extremely productive during his college career. Shows very impressive initial quickness when exploding off the line. Displays good agility as a route-runner and with the ball after the catch.
WEAKNESSES Lacks size. Not tall and does not possess enough bulk at this time. Needs to add strength to more effectively beat press coverage and battled for the ball in the air. Route running skills could use some refinement. Needs to become more consistent catching the ball in a crowd.

next..

(redacted) was the star of an emerging Florida International program. He has had a ton of production there despite his size, and is an athletic mover who has the speed to take the top off a defense. He is good off the line and has fourth-round value as a receiver and return specialist.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS (redacted) is an explosive returner who uses good judgment when fielding the ball. As a receiver he is a deep threat who can create separation when running deep due to his superior long speed. He is a decent route runner who works well out of the slot.
WEAKNESSES (redacted) is undersized and it shows when he blocks in the run game. He has a tough time breaking down and getting hands on a defensive back and using strength to hold on thereafter. He is a deep threat and has production there but is not a reliable short-to-intermediate throwing option.
I got no problem there.
Sounds as if both have exceptional football skills.
That's my priority.
Nelson Spruce would be my idea of a good late round or UDFA pick up.
Tired of workout warriors with poor skills.



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Nelson Spruce looked good in preseason but can't hold a candle to either of those prospects.

Antonio Brown and TY Hilton

Speed matters. If they don't have speed, don't bother bringing them in. They don't have to be top end burners, but they need exceptional Sparq-type explosiveness.

Spruce has some good short area quickness.. decent size.. decent verticle.. and great hands. I hope he can do something.


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We all know about the workout-wonders that wow us every combine, yet turn out to be meh (or worse).

BUT you are so correct in both methods should be applied. Look at all the college STARS ("football players") that bust as well. Vernon Adams was the best college QB coming out of college last year IMO, (yes better than Goff), but simply didn't have the size at the NFL level. It's the same old story. Too small, too slow, too whatever. Sure there's exceptions (the draft is a crap shoot regardless), but…ok, aren't Heisman winners football players? (THE BEST college has to offer). Are they always successful pros? Hell no obviously…NFL evaluation is way more involved than just looking for successful college players.



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Rams do not need to be picking in the top 10 of the draft. Both of their productive first round picks under Snead came outside of the top 10, Brockers and Donald. The jury is still out on Gurley but Grob, TA and Goff are all have serious question marks to varying degrees.

Still believe Gurley can be a dynamic player for this offense to build around provided the new scheme is not of the zone, run stretch variety. Gurley is a downhill running back, the decisions made this season were shocking after his 2015 production



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Dick84 wrote:Nelson Spruce looked good in preseason but can't hold a candle to either of those prospects.

Antonio Brown and TY Hilton

Speed matters. If they don't have speed, don't bother bringing them in. They don't have to be top end burners, but they need exceptional Sparq-type explosiveness.

Spruce has some good short area quickness.. decent size.. decent verticle.. and great hands. I hope he can do something.
Antonio Brown's big knock was that he took too long to get up to speed, the opposite of explosive.
Also " lacks elite acceleration after the catch." " Intangibles: Tough receivers who takes big hits and bounces back up. Takes on any role the coaches ask. Team player, gives credits to his special teams blockers for his long returns. No major character concerns."
He is precisely what I'm talking about.
He was too slow and lacked strength. All he did was play great football.

T.Y. Hilton was a third round pick
He was an exceptional kick returner and had good football skills which he displayed at every WR position in college.
He lacked size and strength and had a problem with drops.



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Kindablue wrote:
Dick84 wrote:Nelson Spruce looked good in preseason but can't hold a candle to either of those prospects.

Antonio Brown and TY Hilton

Speed matters. If they don't have speed, don't bother bringing them in. They don't have to be top end burners, but they need exceptional Sparq-type explosiveness.

Spruce has some good short area quickness.. decent size.. decent verticle.. and great hands. I hope he can do something.
Antonio Brown's big knock was that he took too long to get up to speed, the opposite of explosive.
Also " lacks elite acceleration after the catch." " Intangibles: Tough receivers who takes big hits and bounces back up. Takes on any role the coaches ask. Team player, gives credits to his special teams blockers for his long returns. No major character concerns."
He is precisely what I'm talking about.
He was too slow and lacked strength. All he did was play great football.

T.Y. Hilton was a third round pick
He was an exceptional kick returner and had good football skills which he displayed at every WR position in college.
He lacked size and strength and had a problem with drops.
Brown's short area stuff is explosive.. top level performer in 20 yard and 60 yard shuttle.. just outside top level on 3 cone.
Spruce did well in 20.
Brown was also a 4.56.. not a 4.69.

So.. he's not what you were talking about. You said "4.75" who can catch.

You have your profile.. I'll stick with mine.


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Dick84 wrote:
Kindablue wrote:
Dick84 wrote:Nelson Spruce looked good in preseason but can't hold a candle to either of those prospects.

Antonio Brown and TY Hilton

Speed matters. If they don't have speed, don't bother bringing them in. They don't have to be top end burners, but they need exceptional Sparq-type explosiveness.

Spruce has some good short area quickness.. decent size.. decent verticle.. and great hands. I hope he can do something.
Antonio Brown's big knock was that he took too long to get up to speed, the opposite of explosive.
Also " lacks elite acceleration after the catch." " Intangibles: Tough receivers who takes big hits and bounces back up. Takes on any role the coaches ask. Team player, gives credits to his special teams blockers for his long returns. No major character concerns."
He is precisely what I'm talking about.
He was too slow and lacked strength. All he did was play great football.

T.Y. Hilton was a third round pick
He was an exceptional kick returner and had good football skills which he displayed at every WR position in college.
He lacked size and strength and had a problem with drops.
Brown's short area stuff is explosive.. top level performer in 20 yard and 60 yard shuttle.. just outside top level on 3 cone.
Spruce did well in 20.
Brown was also a 4.56.. not a 4.69.

So.. he's not what you were talking about. You said "4.75" who can catch.

You have your profile.. I'll stick with mine.
You're being obtuse just to argue.
In the later rounds I'll take football skills over workout numbers.



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How is that obtuse?

I used your exact words.

I want guys who have physical talents that matter.

I even showed how Spruce has some.

I'm *never* going to draft a guy who runs a 4.75 at WR... that's a udfa.

Maybe football is too obtuse for you?


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We do need to draft well. Use cap to sign good FA linemen and picks to get maybe 2 receivers (since we also might be losing Britt) and the rest fill in with young hungry defensive talent and hope we catch a few gems.

I love it. Lots of picks. We wont have a really good feel for last years picks until maybe 2 more years, but i think it was a B- considering.

Cooper looks good, Thomas was very average at best, Forrest was holding his own before he got hurt (he might be a sleeper for us), Higbee is big and shows promise (we need to see him under a new system a bit more), and Goff had flashes of brilliance and was one tough dude (we also need to see him in a good system).


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UplandRam wrote:While the NFL world is fixated on the weekend’s slate of playoff games as we open the Wild Card Round of the 2017 NFL Playoffs, we’ve got some good news in an early piece from Over the Cap today looking at their projected compensatory picks in the 2017 NFL Draft.

Projected LA Rams 2017 NFL Draft Order
Rd Pk (Rd) Pk (Ovr)
2 5 37
3 5 69
4 5 110
4 36 141
5 5 151
6 5 191
6 36 222
7 5 232

You can see the impact of the Goff trade and how severely it limits the Rams’ immediate ability to upgrade the roster. Just one pick in the first 68 and just two picks in the first 109. Whoever is coaching this team is going to have a massive challenge on his hands to improve the quality of output without a ton of modified input roster-wise.
WOO HOO, a "massive haul" indeed!! And look, we get TWO 4s and TWO 6s...woo hoo!! Wait, didn't we also have two 4s and two 6s in the 2016 draft. Gee, how'd that work out? Oh, yeah, Snead was picking...I almost forgot.



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Would anybody consider moving up into the first round for WR - Dede Westbrook, Oklahoma .Westbrook has an outstanding PFF grade(88.5) and is rated the best WR by PFF and 4th best college player this year (see below). Not usually interested in move up deals but the Rams desperately need a #1 WR. Not sure what the cost would be but would consider trading up this year for the right WR.

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Dede Westbrook, WR, Oklahoma
PFF Grade: 88.5; Pos. rank: 4

What’s most startling about the numbers Dede Westbrook put up this year is that he didn’t top 70 receiving yards in any of the first three games of the year. From that point on however, his lowest yardage output in a single game was 59 yards in the Sooners’ bowl game, and he dipped below the 100-yard mark just three times from the game against TCU in Week 5 to season’s end. Westbrook forced 20 missed tackles on 80 receptions, averaged 19.0 yards per catch, 9.7 yards after the catch and scored 17 touchdowns, proving to be the key offensive weapon on one of the most high-powered offenses in the nation.

Westbrook averaged 4.03 yards per route run, third at wide receiver behind only Jalin Robinette at Air Force, and Colorado State’s Michael Gallup. He also has a pretty reliable pair of hands, dropping just four of the 84 catchable passes thrown his way. He ranked behind only Northwestern’s Austin Carr among Power-5 wide receivers in PFF grades, and his overall body of work and consistency week to week made him our choice for this award. With a fantastic ability to find the big play, both downfield and by making defenders miss in space after the catch, Westbrook won the Biletnikoff Award this year and is also our top receiver after such a strong end to the year. Baker Mayfield’s top target, Westbrook’s numbers in 2016 are far too good to ignore. – Gordon McGuinness



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More picks is always a good thing... I'll take them.

I don't think I would trade up.. I think I'd go for quantity this year.


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Trade down in 2nd
We need picks



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Pj50 wrote:Trade down in 2nd
We need picks
I have thought of that.. depends on what you would get.

A lower second and a third? Probably not.. A lower second and other 4th? Do you do that?


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