McVay is not ready..another dumb move

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McVay is not ready..another dumb move

Postby Massimo » 11 Jan 2017, 06:28

I have a hard time understanding why the Rams would risk hiring an inexperienced coordinator as Head coach. There are simply too many unknowns about his readiness to put a fragile franchise in his inexperienced hands. Are they that afraid of missing out on the next "hot" coordinator? Isn't that an unnecessary risk? The Rams are already carrying Loser Les Snead around, now you want to couple him with an unproven guy like McVay? I get it, he had some success with Cousins, and the Washington offense, but thinking that will translate into success for J Goff is foolish. It is foolish anyway to think anyone is going to transform Jared Goff into something he is not (a good QB). This is really another example of how this franchise is trash. They foolishly committed to a lousy QB, and now will prioritize finding their next Head Coach on who will be able to maximize Goff's talents when that is a lost cause. Only the Rams.



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Re: McVay is not ready..another dumb move

Postby crazy-legs » 11 Jan 2017, 06:33

He's too young IMO. Being a HC in the NFL is like running a major company. 18 to 20 hour days. I know I wouldn't hand it over to him...

The smart money IMO is either Matt Patricia (my favorite out of the bunch) or Shanahan...

Hopefully we'll get it right...


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Re: McVay is not ready..another dumb move

Postby Timking124 » 11 Jan 2017, 06:45

This too young notion is ridiculous. He is either a good coach or he is not. If he is believed to be the best out of the bunch, lock him up. With any Rookie HC, regardless of age, is a toss up and most will fail.

Shannahan, Patricia and McVay all have the same amount of experience as a HC who knows if anyone is Ready. There have been coaches sons who failed, hot targeted pats coordinators who have failed, so who knows.


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Postby Ants » 11 Jan 2017, 06:57

Massimo wrote:I have a hard time understanding why the Rams would risk hiring an inexperienced coordinator as Head coach. There are simply too many unknowns about his readiness to put a fragile franchise in his inexperienced hands. Are they that afraid of missing out on the next "hot" coordinator? Isn't that an unnecessary risk? The Rams are already carrying Loser Les Snead around, now you want to couple him with an unproven guy like McVay? I get it, he had some success with Cousins, and the Washington offense, but thinking that will translate into success for J Goff is foolish. It is foolish anyway to think anyone is going to transform Jared Goff into something he is not (a good QB). This is really another example of how this franchise is trash. They foolishly committed to a lousy QB, and now will prioritize finding their next Head Coach on who will be able to maximize Goff's talents when that is a lost cause. Only the Rams.


Yes, The Rams should give the job to an experienced guy like Fisher. :roll:
Oh, I get it - experience does count - just like it counts for 21 year old rookie QB's. :idea:
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Re: McVay is not ready..another dumb move

Postby SoCalRam78 » 11 Jan 2017, 07:01

Rams have done the experienced, expensive retread thing in Fisher. They've done the hot coordinator thing in Spags and Linehan. This would be more out of the box than anything. Give me a guy who is young, a tireless worker and hungry.


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Re: McVay is not ready..another dumb move

Postby Massimo » 11 Jan 2017, 07:27

just seems an unnecessary risk. Plenty of good options with less unknowns.



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Postby Ants » 11 Jan 2017, 07:31

SoCalRam78 wrote:Rams have done the experienced, expensive retread thing in Fisher. They've done the hot coordinator thing in Spags and Linehan. This would be more out of the box than anything. Give me a guy who is young, a tireless worker and hungry.


This^^


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Re: McVay is not ready..another dumb move

Postby Timking124 » 11 Jan 2017, 07:35

Massimo wrote:just seems an unnecessary risk. Plenty of good options with less unknowns.


Every coaching candidate is an unknown.

May I make a motion for us to band together and rally around whoever the Rams select as there HC regardless of who it is.


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Postby Ants » 11 Jan 2017, 07:40

Timking124 wrote:
May I make a motion for us to band together and rally around whoever the Rams select as there HC regardless of who it is.


There's no reason not to. You have to give whomever it is a chance to prove themselves - just like Warner, Trump, whomever.
...but you know there are a few here that just can't resist complaining about something...or everything. :oops:


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Re: McVay is not ready..another dumb move

Postby Timking124 » 11 Jan 2017, 07:41

SoCalRam78 wrote:Rams have done the experienced, expensive retread thing in Fisher. They've done the hot coordinator thing in Spags and Linehan. This would be more out of the box than anything. Give me a guy who is young, a tireless worker and hungry.


I understand what you are saying but this type of thinking can get us in trouble. Don't go opposite just for the sake, as there have been hot coordinators and experienced coaches that have worked out. The main objective should be to pick the BEST candidate, all the other stuff is moot.


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Re: McVay is not ready..another dumb move

Postby Ants » 11 Jan 2017, 07:45

Timking124 wrote:
SoCalRam78 wrote:Rams have done the experienced, expensive retread thing in Fisher. They've done the hot coordinator thing in Spags and Linehan. This would be more out of the box than anything. Give me a guy who is young, a tireless worker and hungry.


I understand what you are saying but this type of thinking can get us in trouble. Don't go opposite just for the sake, as there have been hot coordinators and experience coaches that have worked out. The main objective should be to pick the BEST candidate, all the other stuff is moot.


"a tireless worker and hungry"...not to mention successful to some extent, are not things that are "moot". This stuff actually means something.


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Re: McVay is not ready..another dumb move

Postby Timking124 » 11 Jan 2017, 07:54

You are right but he doesnt have to be "Young" as socal added. Just the BEST candidate.
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Re: McVay is not ready..another dumb move

Postby crazy-legs » 11 Jan 2017, 07:55

Timking124 wrote:
Massimo wrote:just seems an unnecessary risk. Plenty of good options with less unknowns.


Every coaching candidate is an unknown.

May I make a motion for us to band together and rally around whoever the Rams select as there HC regardless of who it is.


"Judge our new coach in his third year. After all our last coach was to game strategy what Yoko Ono was to the Beatles"...


Judge our new coach in his third year. After all our last coach was to game strategy what Yoko Ono was to the Beatles...

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Re: McVay is not ready..another dumb move

Postby Mad Baker » 11 Jan 2017, 07:56

We can't leave any stones unturned. You are acting as if McVay is the chose for HC. Besides I think the most important question is who will our other coaches be? Who will Shanahan bring in to coach the defense? Who will Patricia bring in to run the offensive.
There is more to the madness than who will be the next HC.



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Postby Ants » 11 Jan 2017, 08:00

Mad Baker wrote:We can't leave any stones unturned. You are acting as if McVay is the chose for HC. Besides I think the most important question is who will our other coaches be? Who will Shanahan bring in to coach the defense? Who will Patricia bring in to run the offensive.
There is more to the madness than who will be the next HC.


Correct. The comments were meant to be specific to the OP (McVay not ready). 8-)


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Re: McVay is not ready..another dumb move

Postby KBLOCK » 11 Jan 2017, 09:04

Ants wrote:
Massimo wrote:I have a hard time understanding why the Rams would risk hiring an inexperienced coordinator as Head coach. There are simply too many unknowns about his readiness to put a fragile franchise in his inexperienced hands. Are they that afraid of missing out on the next "hot" coordinator? Isn't that an unnecessary risk? The Rams are already carrying Loser Les Snead around, now you want to couple him with an unproven guy like McVay? I get it, he had some success with Cousins, and the Washington offense, but thinking that will translate into success for J Goff is foolish. It is foolish anyway to think anyone is going to transform Jared Goff into something he is not (a good QB). This is really another example of how this franchise is trash. They foolishly committed to a lousy QB, and now will prioritize finding their next Head Coach on who will be able to maximize Goff's talents when that is a lost cause. Only the Rams.

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Re: McVay is not ready..another dumb move

Postby RAMS 1974 » 11 Jan 2017, 09:21

Timking124 wrote:This too young notion is ridiculous. He is either a good coach or he is not. If he is believed to be the best out of the bunch, lock him up. With any Rookie HC, regardless of age, is a toss up and most will fail.


^^^^^^ That !!! I love the Title of this Post ! :roll:

..Roll 2017 LA Rams under McVay !! :R


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Postby RAMS 1974 » 11 Jan 2017, 09:24

Ants wrote:
SoCalRam78 wrote:Rams have done the experienced, expensive retread thing in Fisher. They've done the hot coordinator thing in Spags and Linehan. This would be more out of the box than anything. Give me a guy who is young, a tireless worker and hungry.


This^^



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Re: McVay is not ready..another dumb move

Postby Pj50 » 11 Jan 2017, 09:31

Becausr Shannahan,McDaniel,patricia,and the rest are so proven as good HCs

Go back to your circle jerk at the PD please



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Re: McVay is not ready..another dumb move

Postby RamontheRamfan » 11 Jan 2017, 09:31

We are so far away from being relevant on the field that by the time we are McVay will be older than Shula was and will be an experienced HC at the things he is not experienced at now.
He appears to have all the tools and respect of his players and that's the start. If he surrounds himself with good people, creates a work ethic second to none and makes it a competitive environment he will be fine. Who does that sound like?

I still like JM as well but if they go with the wonder kid I will be all in as it will take 2 years anyway to get us where we need to be. AS long as he can coach the offense and get a good DC we are off and running. Now just make good game management decisions like running a 2 minute offense and clock and time out management and we are way ahead of where we were.



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Re: McVay is not ready..another dumb move

Postby SoCalRam78 » 11 Jan 2017, 09:43

Timking124 wrote:
SoCalRam78 wrote:Rams have done the experienced, expensive retread thing in Fisher. They've done the hot coordinator thing in Spags and Linehan. This would be more out of the box than anything. Give me a guy who is young, a tireless worker and hungry.


I understand what you are saying but this type of thinking can get us in trouble. Don't go opposite just for the sake, as there have been hot coordinators and experienced coaches that have worked out. The main objective should be to pick the BEST candidate, all the other stuff is moot.


He is highly regarded, I don't feel this is some guy the Rams are pulling out their ass.


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Re: McVay is not ready..another dumb move

Postby SoCalRam78 » 11 Jan 2017, 09:49

RAMS 1974 wrote:
Ants wrote:
SoCalRam78 wrote:Rams have done the experienced, expensive retread thing in Fisher. They've done the hot coordinator thing in Spags and Linehan. This would be more out of the box than anything. Give me a guy who is young, a tireless worker and hungry.


This^^



..................^^ That !!!!



Let's do the Fisher thing again: Fatter, older, more expensive, less motivated.


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Re: McVay is not ready..another dumb move

Postby toast49 » 11 Jan 2017, 10:00

Massimo wrote:I have a hard time understanding why the Rams would risk hiring an inexperienced coordinator as Head coach. There are simply too many unknowns about his readiness to put a fragile franchise in his inexperienced hands. Are they that afraid of missing out on the next "hot" coordinator? Isn't that an unnecessary risk? The Rams are already carrying Loser Les Snead around, now you want to couple him with an unproven guy like McVay? I get it, he had some success with Cousins, and the Washington offense, but thinking that will translate into success for J Goff is foolish. It is foolish anyway to think anyone is going to transform Jared Goff into something he is not (a good QB). This is really another example of how this franchise is trash. They foolishly committed to a lousy QB, and now will prioritize finding their next Head Coach on who will be able to maximize Goff's talents when that is a lost cause. Only the Rams.


To me the biggest issue with having Demoff and Snead in this process is they need a coach to justify the selection of Goff. The team should be focused on putting a proper front office structure in place first, then having a "real" football GM conduct the head coaching search. I think Goff has a chance to develop into a solid starter, but a veteran like Romo should be brought in to compete for the job
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Re: McVay is not ready..another dumb move

Postby Rammer » 11 Jan 2017, 10:03

I think I might like this kind of a choice. It's bold. Young, capable, energetic and hungry. The team that screwed up with the RGIII trade could have been the Cleveland Browns for years. Instead, that team has a good offense. And somehow, he turned cousins into a quality qb. He must be doing something right.




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