McVay is not ready..another dumb move

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TBUX wrote:Sounds like Cousins did it mostly on his own- which most who are very good- great do. Giving the OC the credit? He couldn't do the same for RGIII? even when healthy. Players dedicated to being the best they can are self motivated individuals. Cousins seems to be that type. Brady was that type= BB didn't make Brady great- Tom Brady did- he was going to be great regardless of where he went. IE if Goff doesn't have that mindset, the new HC isn't going to be able to make him great- that comes from within. So thinking what happened with Cousins will happen to Goff because of the OC_ I don't buy it. Some things sure- but you cant teach drive, dedication, intelligence, will, competitiveness etc.
What a bleeping joke! Yea but your boy McDaniels made Brady! Have you even taken a second to read what Cousins has said about McVay? Again bleeping clueless.

I tried to stay cool but can't with such statements.



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Well, he IS The Putz II :lol:
In true Safety Putz fashion, one must repeat the same thing - over and over and over again like a child with tourette's, all hopped up on sugar. :roll:[/quote]

Well then I nominate TBUX for The Putz III, because he just repeats his love for Fisher over and over.[/quote]
I think he is holding out for Rex Ryan since he lost his Fisher since they one and the same.



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crazy-legs wrote:He's too young IMO. Being a HC in the NFL is like running a major company. 18 to 20 hour days. I know I wouldn't hand it over to him...

The smart money IMO is either Matt Patricia (my favorite out of the bunch) or Shanahan...

Hopefully we'll get it right...
Shanahan maybe but Patricia basically carries BB's water for him. Not sure what he's done other than work for BB in NE .

He's as unproven as McVay .



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Massimo wrote:just seems an unnecessary risk. Plenty of good options with less unknowns.
Other than Shanahan whose a better option?

Not Patricia, nor overrated McD.

Lynn?, Dudes been a OC for a few games.

Austin? 51 and no one's beating down his door.

Maybe one of the old guys, McCoy, Turner, or Harold Goodwin who carries Arians coffee for him the last 4 years.



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ramsrule57 wrote:
Massimo wrote:just seems an unnecessary risk. Plenty of good options with less unknowns.
Other than Shanahan whose a better option?

Not Patricia, nor overrated McD.

Lynn?, Dudes been a OC for a few games.

Austin? 51 and no one's beating down his door.

Maybe one of the old guys, McCoy, Turner, or Harold Goodwin who carries Arians coffee for him the last 4 years.
Shanahan and Haley are the guys I would pursue. The search just seems bush league. They should be interviewing for a GM like SF and then worry about the coach. Despite what Demoff will try to have you believe, the team needs a total overhaul/rebuild. A culture change is needed. If Demoff must stay, surely they could rid themselves of Snead who bares much of the blame for the talentless team. Fisher sucked, no doubt about it, but he should not be a scapecoat for Les Snead.



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You can't just offhandedly dismiss the age thing on McVay. No matter now smart 25-30 year olds are, and some are brilliant ones, there is something to be said for life experience. If I've been on the planet 10 years longer than you, all things being equal, I've learned some things that aid my success that you just won't know because they haven't gone through it (quite frankly its one of the only perks of being old). So if you get McVay, no matter how smart, you are going to get a steep learning curve. Maybe he is the exceptions that overcomes it, but you play odds and odds are he isn't. Everyone here bashes McD for his past failures but he was once the savant coordinator everyone wanted (Personally I believe the second time around he will be much better but that and $6 will buy you a cup of coffee). If he can bring Wade on, I'd be all in but personally I want my coach, who is expected to be a leader of men, to have a little more experience to draw from.



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Underdog wrote:You can't just offhandedly dismiss the age thing on McVay. No matter now smart 25-30 year olds are, and some are brilliant ones, there is something to be said for life experience. If I've been on the planet 10 years longer than you, all things being equal, I've learned some things that aid my success that you just won't know because they haven't gone through it (quite frankly its one of the only perks of being old). So if you get McVay, no matter how smart, you are going to get a steep learning curve. Maybe he is the exceptions that overcomes it, but you play odds and odds are he isn't. Everyone here bashes McD for his past failures but he was once the savant coordinator everyone wanted (Personally I believe the second time around he will be much better but that and $6 will buy you a cup of coffee). If he can bring Wade on, I'd be all in but personally I want my coach, who is expected to be a leader of men, to have a little more experience to draw from.
And you can't offhandedly dismiss him *only* because of the age, which is what most posters are reacting to.

It's why posters considering the hiring are encouraged by the idea of a Wade Phillips and that I suggeted bringing Callahand and making him OC.


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Underdog wrote:You can't just offhandedly dismiss the age thing on McVay. No matter now smart 25-30 year olds are, and some are brilliant ones, there is something to be said for life experience. If I've been on the planet 10 years longer than you, all things being equal, I've learned some things that aid my success that you just won't know because they haven't gone through it (quite frankly its one of the only perks of being old). So if you get McVay, no matter how smart, you are going to get a steep learning curve. Maybe he is the exceptions that overcomes it, but you play odds and odds are he isn't. Everyone here bashes McD for his past failures but he was once the savant coordinator everyone wanted (Personally I believe the second time around he will be much better but that and $6 will buy you a cup of coffee). If he can bring Wade on, I'd be all in but personally I want my coach, who is expected to be a leader of men, to have a little more experience to draw from.
sheesh, that's all im sayin...



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Massimo wrote:
Underdog wrote:You can't just offhandedly dismiss the age thing on McVay. No matter now smart 25-30 year olds are, and some are brilliant ones, there is something to be said for life experience. If I've been on the planet 10 years longer than you, all things being equal, I've learned some things that aid my success that you just won't know because they haven't gone through it (quite frankly its one of the only perks of being old). So if you get McVay, no matter how smart, you are going to get a steep learning curve. Maybe he is the exceptions that overcomes it, but you play odds and odds are he isn't. Everyone here bashes McD for his past failures but he was once the savant coordinator everyone wanted (Personally I believe the second time around he will be much better but that and $6 will buy you a cup of coffee). If he can bring Wade on, I'd be all in but personally I want my coach, who is expected to be a leader of men, to have a little more experience to draw from.
sheesh, that's all im sayin...
No.. you said, definitively, that it's a dumb hire.


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Massimo wrote:Goff is no Cousins....
Better.



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Show me where I said Mcd made Brady - stop making shit up fucko. McVay has done a solid job last year- only 3 years as OC- and only one really good year IMO. so that warrants a HC job? don't think so.



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SK Ram wrote:
Massimo wrote:Goff is no Cousins....
Better.
there are "Homers" and then the delusional. open your eyes bro.



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Massimo wrote:
SK Ram wrote:
Massimo wrote:Goff is no Cousins....
Better.
there are "Homers" and then the delusional. open your eyes bro.
How do you know?

Goff was coached by Boras and Fisher. While cousins was coached by both Shanahans, McVay and Gruden.

You don't think that made a huge difference?

If Goff got coached been coached by the guys who coached Cousins over the years, Goff would have looked much better.

That's why this coaching search is so important. It's time to finally get some good coaches on offense to evaluate and train these guys.



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Massimo wrote:
SK Ram wrote:
Massimo wrote:Goff is no Cousins....
Better.
there are "Homers" and then the delusional. open your eyes bro.
How do you know?

Goff was coached by Boras and Fisher. While cousins was coached by both Shanahans, McVay and Gruden.

You don't think that made a huge difference?

If Goff got coached been coached by the guys who coached Cousins over the years, Goff would have looked much better.

Same with Carson Wentz. The Eagles surrounded him with good offensive minds like DeFelippo, Frank Reich and Doug Peterson. The rams gives Goff, Fisher, Boras and Chris Weike

I mean "really"????
That's why this coaching search is so important. It's time to finally get some good coaches on offense to evaluate and train these guys.



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KBLOCK wrote:Well, he IS The Putz II :lol:
In true Safety Putz fashion, one must repeat the same thing - over and over and over again like a child with tourette's, all hopped up on sugar. :roll:
Well then I nominate TBUX for The Putz III, because he just repeats his love for Fisher over and over.[/quote]
I think he is holding out for Rex Ryan since he lost his Fisher since they one and the same.[/quote]
Wrong. Tbux is a true Ram fan. Support whoever is a Ram. I do the same. Many here think they know more than those with the team do. Why don't those big mouths work for an NFL team if they know so much? They don't know, that is why. Just blowhards.



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Timking124 wrote:This too young notion is ridiculous. He is either a good coach or he is not. If he is believed to be the best out of the bunch, lock him up. With any Rookie HC, regardless of age, is a toss up and most will fail.

Shannahan, Patricia and McVay all have the same amount of experience as a HC who knows if anyone is Ready. There have been coaches sons who failed, hot targeted pats coordinators who have failed, so who knows.
Here's the deal. McVay has never been a head coach anywhere. I like him as an OC but not as a head coach. The Rams have an unsuccessful history of hiring assistant coaches (Martz, Linehan, Spags) that fail. Give me the graybeard who has HC experience and a proven record of developing assistants and winning.



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Ram Fan in U. City wrote:
Timking124 wrote:This too young notion is ridiculous. He is either a good coach or he is not. If he is believed to be the best out of the bunch, lock him up. With any Rookie HC, regardless of age, is a toss up and most will fail.

Shannahan, Patricia and McVay all have the same amount of experience as a HC who knows if anyone is Ready. There have been coaches sons who failed, hot targeted pats coordinators who have failed, so who knows.
Here's the deal. McVay has never been a head coach anywhere. I like him as an OC but not as a head coach. The Rams have an unsuccessful history of hiring assistant coaches (Martz, Linehan, Spags) that fail. Give me the graybeard who has HC experience and a proven record of developing assistants and winning.
So who would your choice be?? The Ryan bros? I'm on the opposite side. Give me a young, excited energetic young guy who wants to be successful. Not the old "graybeard" who wants to bring his philosophy that worked in the past. Haven't we been down that road before?



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Looks official
Sean Mcvay
Dudes 20 years younger than me
Trip
Hope it works out for the best
Go Rams!!



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Calling it now. McVay will lead the rams to a playoff game next year.

WSH O was no joke this year and that was because McVay put his play makers in play maker positions. Did a great job with Kirk and from what I have seen hes a players coach thats good with Xs and Os so this guy IS "the next hot Coordinator"

Look what Kyle Shanahan did with this O and then look what McVay did.

Great Hire! Fuck Snead still doing here?



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a southern Cal team hired a guy named 'Sean'.
that's perfect Duuude !



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SK Ram wrote:
KBLOCK wrote:Well, he IS The Putz II :lol:
In true Safety Putz fashion, one must repeat the same thing - over and over and over again like a child with tourette's, all hopped up on sugar. :roll:
Well then I nominate TBUX for The Putz III, because he just repeats his love for Fisher over and over.
I think he is holding out for Rex Ryan since he lost his Fisher since they one and the same.[/quote]
Wrong. Tbux is a true Ram fan. Support whoever is a Ram. I do the same. Many here think they know more than those with the team do. Why don't those big mouths work for an NFL team if they know so much? They don't know, that is why. Just blowhards.[/quote]

thanks for the kind words and you are right- I am a true fan- sometimes to a fault- I support every Ram until they give me reason not to ( don't work hard, make too many boneheaded mistakes etc) so yeah I support every Ram. I don't know more than anyone on here- hardly- I simply have strong opinions- and I understand how some take that. I didn't like the HC hire- but bet your ass that now that he is my HC- I will support the guy 100% !! As I do with Goff, when I wanted Wentz. I am hoping this guy turns Goff into a star- I would love nothing more!! one thing I am happy about- we hired an offensive mind. Happy



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Rams got it right. Love the McVay/Phillips/Fassel trio.....

Go Rams! I'm stoked!


"In McVay We Trust!"

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It's not like McVay was the only candidate interviewed. The Rams probably interviewed more candidates than anyone. Secondly you want a guy who wants to be here. I question whether McDaniels or Shannahan would qualify in that regard. In any case I'll be rooting for my team.



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Look where Fishers experience got us! This guy understands offense and how to beat today's defenses! I loved what he did for the Skins and how he made Cousins an upper tier QB. The proof is in the pudding but I am very hopeful! Go Rams!!



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The Rams just fired a greybeard and his old philosphy from the 80's-90's, who whiffed on pretty much all of his red flag challenges and ran a country club. Now they have someone more in tune with today's NFL.



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