ElAcky wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:16 am
Rammer wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:40 am
Honest question regarding the fires -
It's easy for politicians to point to climate change. It probably does account for some of this but the increase in fires seems too sudden and drastic to blame it all on climate change. Our weather really hasn't changed that dramatically and we have had droughts before. So, this explanation doesn't work for me.
The EPA was created 50 years ago and has over time become stronger and stronger. During this same period, forest fires seem to have become more numerous and severe
. Probably the graph of fires follows the growth of the EPA pretty close with a lag period of a few years. I don;t even have to look at the data to know it does. Is that a coincidence? or were they doing a better job with forestry before the EPA?
This is an honest question.
I always go back to hard facts (sorry guys !!!).. and this is a good article on it... bottom line, this is not just a US west coast problem... fires in Europe are getting worse and lets not forget Siberia burnt down a few months ago
https://www.carbonbrief.org/factcheck-h ... -wildfires
Interesting but then there is this contradicting study from the Journal of Science.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... 8wQAvD_BwE
So, there are contradicting studies out there about this.
Even in your posted article - it is interesting but I see contradictions. 1> the writer (scientist) wants us to ignore all of the wildfire data collected before 1981 because it is unreliable. Hmm, maybe but I also notice that it contradicts his conclusion. So many other climate studies use the unreliable old temperature data and records when it suits them. .. He also tells us to ignore the fact that around the world there are actually less fires. He just explains that away too but provides little proof. I am not saying his conclusions are total horse shit either, just that I don't know.
There remains a lot of questions about wild fires even if man made global warming is totally accepted. . 1> are they really getting worse in the US West or are we just having a bad cycle 2> are fires actually increasing around the world or decreasing? 3> What impact is climate change having overall? Even if increasing in CA, how much is due to climate change? and If climate change made CA dryer, it has made it wetter in the tropics. there are less wild fires there and this would be a benefit? I have been told for years that the tropical forests are the very key to life on Earth. Not the Sierra Nevada mountains, it is the tropical rain forests that really matter most.
My own observation - it seems like if anything - around the world it is getting wetter and more humid overall - not dryer. This is usually what comes with higher temps.