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    Re: Off Topic - Trump Unintelligble

    by 69RamFan » 18 May 2017, 18:27

    My money is on Trump,

    And now with Ex FBI Chief Robert Mueller taking over as a special investigator.

    The Dems got their wish but I feel that will be bad news for the Democrats when it's all said and done.
    Hopefully the special investigator can end this controversy one way or the other quickly.

    Friendly wager on who is closer to the truth? Loser has to use the avatar of the winner's choosing for the season. Call opening kickoff for the rams the cutoff if we don't know more? Only rule is avatar cannot be considered obscene or offensive to society at large
    Sure, that sounds like fun,, :lol: :lol: :lol:
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    Re: Off Topic - Trump Unintelligble

    by 69RamFan » 19 May 2017, 17:09

    Weiner's gonna get the Weenie in prison for sexting to a minor for sure.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Now they need to sent his wife to prison too, for forwarding Clintons classified message to her weenie hubby... :lol: :lol: :lol:

    As the Saga turns,,, :lol: :lol: :lol:
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    Re: Off Topic - Trump Unintelligble

    by 69RamFan » 20 May 2017, 21:32

    Some Dems better watch out, Weenie my sing like a canary to get a lesser sentence of jail time, :lol: :lol: :lol:
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    Re: Off Topic - Trump Unintelligble

    by Underdog » 20 May 2017, 22:03

    Some Dems better watch out, Weenie my sing like a canary to get a lesser sentence of jail time, :lol: :lol: :lol:
    That's fine. Put anyone who is guilty in jail. No problems here
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    Re: Off Topic - Trump Unintelligble

    by 69RamFan » 25 May 2017, 21:41

    The Liberal Media still talking about collusion with Russia and still haven't found anything after one year. :lol: :lol: :lol:

    And do you hear them talking anything about the Unmasking? Nope....

    Here is the REAL NEWs that the dirty Liberals don't want anyone to know...

    Somebody needs to go to Jail,,,

    as the Politics turns..... :lol: :lol: :lol:

    http://circa.com/politics/declassified- ... te-parties

    The FBI has illegally shared raw intelligence about Americans with unauthorized third parties and violated other constitutional privacy protections, according to newly declassified government documents that undercut the bureau’s public assurances about how carefully it handles warrantless spy data to avoid abuses or leaks.
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    In his final congressional testimony before he was fired by President Trump this month, then-FBI Director James Comey unequivocally told lawmakers his agency used sensitive espionage data gathered about Americans without a warrant only when it was “lawfully collected, carefully overseen and checked.”

    Once-top secret U.S. intelligence community memos reviewed by Circa tell a different story, citing instances of “disregard” for rules, inadequate training and “deficient” oversight and even one case of deliberately sharing spy data with a forbidden party.
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    For instance, a ruling declassified this month by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) chronicles nearly 10 pages listing hundreds of violations of the FBI’s privacy-protecting minimization rules that occurred on Comey’s watch.

    The behavior the FBI admitted to a FISA judge just last month ranged from illegally sharing raw intelligence with unauthorized third parties to accessing intercepted attorney-client privileged communications without proper oversight the bureau promised was in place years ago.
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    The court also opined aloud that it fears the violations are more extensive than already disclosed.

    “The Court is nonetheless concerned about the FBI’s apparent disregard of minimization rules and whether the FBI is engaging in similar disclosures of raw Section 702 information that have not been reported,” the April 2017 ruling declared.
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    The court isn’t the only oversight body to disclose recent concerns that the FBI’s voluntary system for policing its behavior and self-disclosing mistakes hasn’t been working.

    The Justice Department inspector general’s officedeclassified a report in 2015 that reveals the internal watchdog had concerns as early as 2012 that the FBI was submitting ‘deficient” reports indicating it had a clean record complying with spy data gathered on Americans without a warrant.
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    The FBI normally is forbidden from surveilling an American without a warrant. But Section 702 of the Foreign Surveillance Act, last updated by Congress in 2008, allowed the NSA to share with the FBI spy data collected without a warrant that includes the communications of Americans with “foreign targets.”

    But the FISA court watchdogs suggest FBI compliance problems began months after Section 702 was implemented.
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    The FBI’s very first compliance report in 2009 declared it had not found any instances in which agents accessed NSA intercepts supposedly gathered overseas about an American who in fact was on U.S. soil.

    But the IG said it reviewed the same data and easily found evidence that the FBI accessed NSA data gathered on a person who likely was in the United States, making it illegal to review without a warrant.
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    “We found several instances in which the FBI acquired communications on the same day that the NSA determined through analysis of intercepted communications that the person was in the United States,” the declassified report revealed.

    It called the FBI’s first oversight report “deficient” and urged better oversight.

    FBI officials acknowledged there have been violations but insist they are a small percentage of the total counterterrorism and counterintelligence work its agents perform.
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    Almost all are unintentional human errors by good-intentioned agents and analysts under enormous pressure to stop the next major terror attack, the officials said.

    Others fear these blunders call into the question the bureau’s rosy assessment that it can still police itself when it comes to protecting Americans’ privacy 17 years after the war on terror began.
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    That doubt, heaviest among civil libertarian Democrats but also growing among Republicans, is particularly sensitive because the law that allows the bureau to access warrantless spy data about Americans - Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act - is up for renewal later this year.

    Lawmakers in both parties and both chambers of Congress are writing reforms behind closed door, leaving the intelligence community anxious it might lose some of the spy powers it considers essential to fighting terrorism, cyber attacks and unlawful foreign influence.
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    “No one on the Hill wants to look like we are soft on terrorism when you have increasing threats like Manchester-style attacks. But the evidence of abuse or sloppiness and the unending leaks of sensitive intelligence in the last year has emboldened enough of us to pursue some reforms,” a senior congressional aide told Circa, speaking only on condition of anonymity because he wasn’t authorized to talk to the media. “Where that new line between privacy and security is drawn will depend on how many more shoes fall before the 702 renewal happens.”
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    Rep. Trent Frank, R-Ariz., a member of the House Judiciary Committee that will help craft the 702 renewal legislation, said the rising revelation of problems about improper spying on Americans are having an effect on lawmakers who have long supported the intelligence community.

    “The bottom line is the law has to be followed and when it isn’t there has to be consequence that is of significance so that it deters others from breaking the same law,” he told Circa.
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    One of the biggest concerns involves so-called backdoor searches in which the FBI can mine NSA intercept data for information that may have been incidentally collected about an American. No warrant or court approval is required, and the FBI insists these searches are one of the most essential tools in combating terrorist plots.
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    But a respected former Justice Department national security prosecutor questions if the searching has gotten too cavalier. AmyJeffress, the former top security adviser to former Attorney General Eric Holder, was appointed by the intelligence court in 2015 to give anindependent assessmentof the FBI’s record of compliance.
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    Jeffress concluded agents’ searches of NSA data now extend far beyond national security issues and thus were “overstepping” the constitutional protections designed to ensure the bureau isn’t violating Americans’ 4th Amendment protections against unlawful search and seizure.

    “The FBI procedures allow for really virtually unrestricted querying of the Section 702 data in a way the NSA and CIA have restrained it through their procedures,” she argued before the court in a sealed 2015 proceeding.
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    “I think that in this case the procedures could be tighter and more restrictive, and should be in order to comply with the Fourth Amendment,” she added.

    The court thanked Jeffress for her thoughtful analysis but ultimately rejected her recommendation to impose on the FBI a requirement of creating a written justification why each search would help pursue a national security or criminal matter.
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    The Justice Department argued in that matter that the extra restriction would keep FBI agents from connecting the dots in terror cases and compared NSA searches to something Americans do every day.

    “If we require our agents to write a full justification every time think about if you wrote a full justification every time you used Google. Among other things, you would use Google a lot less,” a lawyer told the court.
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    That was late in 2015. But by early 2017, the court became more concerned after the Obama administration disclosed significant violations of privacy protections at two separate intelligence agencies involved in the Section 702 program.
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    The most serious involved the NSA searching for American data it was forbidden to search. But the FBI also was forced to admit its agents and analysts shared espionage data with prohibited third parties, ranging from a federal contractor to a private entity that did not have the legal right to see the intelligence.
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    Such third-party sharing is a huge political concern now as Congress and intelligence community leaders try to stop the flow of classified information to parties that could illegally disclose or misuse it, such as the recent leak that disclosed intercepted communications between the Russian ambassador and Trump’s first national security adviser, Michael Flynn.
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    The court’s memo suggested the FBI’s sharing of raw intelligence to third parties, at the time, had good law enforcement intentions but bad judgment and inadequate training.

    “Nonetheless, the above described practices violated the governing minimization procedures,” the court chided.

    A footnote in the ruling stated one instance of improper sharing was likely intentional.
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    “Improper access” to NSA spy data for FBI contractors “seems to have been the result of deliberate decision-making,” the court noted.

    The recently unsealed ruling also revealed the FBI is investigating more cases of possible improper sharing with private parties that recently have come to light.

    The government “is investigating whether there have been similar cases in which the FBI improperly afforded non-FBI personnel access to raw FISA-acquired information on FBI systems,” the court warned.
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    The ruling cited other FBI failures in handling Section 702 intel, including retaining data on computer storage systems “in violation of applicable minimization requirements.”

    Among the most serious additional concerns was the FBI’s failure for more than two years to establish review teams to ensure intercepts between targets and their lawyers aren’t violating the attorney-client privilege.
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    “Failures of the FBI to comply with this ‘review team’ requirement for particular targets have been focus of the FISC’s (FISA’s?) concerns since 2014,” the court noted.

    The FBI said it is trying to resolve the deficiencies with aggressive training of agents.

    That admission of inadequate training directly undercut Comey’s testimony earlier this month when questioned by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.
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    “Nobody gets to see FISA information of any kind unless they've had the appropriate training and have the appropriate oversight,” the soon-to-be-fired FBI director assured lawmakers.

    The struggle for the intelligence court and lawmakers in providing future oversight will be where to set more limits without hampering counterterrorism effort
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    The FBI told Circa in a statement, "As indicated in its opinion, the Court determined that the past and current standard minimization procedures are consistent with the Fourth Amendment and met the statutory definition of those procedures under Section 702."

    Jeffress, however, warned in her 2015 brief of another dynamic that will pose a challenge too, an FBI culture to use a tool more just because it can.
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    “These scenarios suggest a potentially very large and broad scope of incidental collection of communications between a lawful target and U.S. persons that are not the type of communications Section 702 was designed to collect,” she told the court in a written memo.

    And when questioned at a subsequent hearing, Jeffress observed: “I don’t think that the FBI will voluntarily set limits on its querying procedures, because law enforcement agencies tend not to take steps to restrict or limit what they can do, for obvious reasons.”
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    Re: Off Topic - Trump Unintelligble

    by Underdog » 26 May 2017, 16:37

    Whoever needs to go to jail can go as far as I'm concerned. Comey, fine. Trump, fine. Hillary, fine. I don't care what party you are. You break the law you pay the consequences. The Dems are a dumpster-fire. They can't even win an election when the Republican candidate literally slams a reporter. Time for them to go. And the Republicans, their actions scream self-serving and obstructionist (have you met one person that doesn't work for an ISP that was in favor of letting ISP's sell your browsing data?). Lets get some new parties that actually represent the people, Ones in the middle of the bell curve and not the fringes. I bet a lot more would get done because there would be less idealism and more pragmatism. Congress doesn't have a 6% approval rating for nothing. They've earned it.

    As for Trump, he's either wildly ignorant or guilty. Seems like too much smoke and too much hiding going on. It will all come down to the money trail. That is what always gets someone if they are guilty. The sale of the FL home may be the thread. Odds are he doesn't make it out of his first term either through Russian collusion or obstruction of justice. And by odds I mean the Vegas line.
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    by 69RamFan » 27 May 2017, 12:32

    One step closer to the Leakers,, :lol: :lol: :lol:

    http://www.independentsentinel.com/cbs- ... dentified/

    On May 22nd, One America News Network, OANN reporter Trey Yingst announced that three leakers have been identified in the White House and will be fired upon Trump’s return. Yingst also said they would be arrested.

    Yingst reported they have been referred to the Office of Governmental Ethics but CBS has been told by the OGE they are not involved.

    Disclosing classified information without authorization is a crime and it should be treated as such.

    Now CBS News is confirming the OANN scoop.

    Today, CBS News has confirmed from two sources that three leakers of classified information to the media have been identified are expected to be fired. CBS said nothing about arrest.

    Officials within the Trump White House believe leaks of Mr. Trump’s conversation with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov are a “deliberate attempt” by officials who are holdovers from President Obama’s administration and are trying to damage the Trump presidency.

    Last week, the Trump campaign released an email to supporters entitled “SABOTAGE,” in which the campaign said, “There are people within our own unelected bureaucracy that want to sabotage President Trump and our entire America First movement.”

    Trump plans to restructure the communications staff when he gets back but denies any plans to fire Sean Spicer whom he says is “doing a good job but he gets beat up.”

    He’s adding a Trump war room to counter lies/misrepresentations in the media and in congress.

    Trump said the leaks are “coordinated and timed” to inflict the maximum amount of damage to his presidency.

    Recently, the leakers tried to embarrass Trump by leaking classified British intel concerning the Manchester terror attack.

    Donald Trump promised the Prime Minister of the UK that he would find and prosecute the leakers of the the British intelligence. He has asked the Justice Department to investigate.
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    Re: Off Topic - Trump Unintelligble

    by 69RamFan » 31 May 2017, 15:55

    Lets see if Rice plays the 5th,,,, :lol: :lol: :lol:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05 ... ncies.html

    House Intelligence Committee sends subpoenas to intel agencies

    Three of the nation’s intelligence agencies received subpoenas Wednesday afternoon issued by the House Intelligence Committee, Fox News has confirmed, with each of the three demands for documents explicitly naming three top officials of the Obama administration: Susan Rice, who served as President Obama’s White House national security adviser; former CIA Director John Brennan; and former U.N. ambassador Samantha Power.

    The three subpoenas, among a total of seven signed by panel chairman Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA), were served on the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Central Intelligence Agency, and the National Security Agency, and all three explicitly referenced “unmasking” – a signal that the House panel is intensifying its investigation into allegations that Obama-era aides improperly demanded the “unmasking” of names of associates of President Trump that had appeared, in coded form, in classified intelligence reports, then leaked the data to news media organizations.

    The other four subpoenas were issued at the behest of the committee’s ranking Democrat, Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA), and were said to be duplicative of subpoenas already issued by the Senate Intelligence Committee, which is conducting a parallel probe. These four are focused, sources said, on persistent – but as yet unsubstantiated – allegations of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, as well as the case of Michael Flynn. The former White House national security adviser was dismissed after three weeks on the job because the White House concluded he had misled Vice President Pence about private conversations Flynn had had with the Russian ambassador late last year.

    The other target of these four subpoenas is said to be Michael Cohen, a longtime Trump attorney. Cohen has denied participating in any effort at collusion with the Kremlin. Flynn, through attorneys, has unsuccessfully sought immunity from prosecution in exchange for congressional testimony.

    The issuance of the seven subpoenas was first reported by the Wall Street Journal.

    The inclusion of Power’s name on the subpoenas marks the first appearance of the former U.N. ambassador in the controversy surrounding the Obama administration’s use of unmasking. Capitol Hill sources told Fox News they are devoting increasing scrutiny to Power – a former historian and winner of the Pulitzer Prize who worked as a foreign policy adviser in the Senate office of Barack Obama before joining his administration – because they have come to see her role in the unmasking as larger than previously known, and eclipsing those of the other former officials named.



    Rice has previously denied any improper activity in her use of unmasking. “The allegation is somehow Obama administration officials utilized intelligence for political purposes, that's absolutely false,” Rice told MSNBC on April 4. President Trump said at that time that he personally believed Rice had committed a crime. None of those named on the subpoenas has been formally accused of wrongdoing.

    Inquiries placed with representatives of Power and Brennan were not immediately returned.

    That Nunes signed the seven subpoenas, as is standard practice, underscored the chairman’s continuing influence over key aspects of over his committee’s probe, despite the fact that Nunes in early April “stepped aside” from his panel’s Russia probe. He insists his decision was not a formal recusal, and he is still awaiting a hearing by the House Ethics Committee, which agreed at the time to investigate whether Nunes had improperly shared classified data with the White House before presenting it to Schiff and the rest of the intelligence committee.

    Nunes told Fox News in an exclusive interview on May 19 that he is an active chairman, including continuing to preside over the unmasking angle of the investigation

    Investigative sources on the committee’s Republican majority staff told Fox News that the unmasking subpoenas do not reflect a “fishing expedition,” but were issued because documentary evidence already in hand warranted demands for additional documents relating to Rice, Brennan and Power.

    Where NSA had previously complied with the House panel’s investigators, sources said that cooperation had ground to a complete halt, and that the other agencies – FBI and CIA – had never substantively cooperated with document requests at all. The investigators believe that even rudimentary document production as a result of the subpoenas will enable them to piece together a timeline linking the unmasking activity to news media reports, based on leaks, that conveyed the same information provided to the officials requesting unmasking.

    President Trump and the White House have dismissed the long-running allegations of collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign, and possibly the transition team, as “fake news,” a scandal ginned up by supporters of President Obama and Hillary Clinton to explain the Democratic nominee’s stunning loss to Mr. Trump last November.

    However, the Trump administration belatedly acquiesced in the appointment of former FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III as a special counsel to investigate the allegations “and related matters.” Critics of the administration have also pointed to sustained reporting alleging undisclosed contacts between key Trump aides and various Russians – Attorney General Jeff Sessions recused himself from the probe at an early stage because of such contacts – and to a memorandum prepared in February by former FBI director James Comey, leaked a few days after his termination by President Trump, in which Comey alleged that the president had personally importuned him to abandon the FBI’s probe of Flynn.
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    Re: Off Topic - Trump Unintelligble

    by 69RamFan » 06 Jun 2017, 06:30

    One leaker found: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    WASHINGTON — An intelligence contractor was charged with sending a classified report about Russia’s interference in the 2016 election to the news media, the Justice Department announced Monday, the first criminal leak case under President Trump.
    The case showed the department’s willingness to crack down on leaks, as Mr. Trump has called for in complaining that they are undermining his administration. His grievances have contributed to a sometimes tense relationship with the intelligence agencies he now oversees.
    The Justice Department announced the case against the contractor, Reality Leigh Winner, 25, about an hour after the national-security news outlet The Intercept published the apparent document, a May 5 intelligence report from the National Security Agency.
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    The report described two cyberattacks by Russia’s military intelligence unit, the G.R.U. — one in August against a company that sells voter registration-related software and another, a few days before the election, against 122 local election officials.
    The Intercept said the N.S.A. report had been submitted anonymously. But shortly after its article was published, the Justice Department said that the F.B.I. had arrested Ms. Winner at her house in Augusta, Georgia, on Saturday. It also said she had confessed to an agent that she had printed out a May 5 intelligence file and mailed it to an online news outlet.
    It was not immediately clear who is serving as the defense lawyer for Ms. Winner, who has been charged under the Espionage Act.
    An accompanying F.B.I. affidavit said she has worked for Pluribus International Corporation at a government facility in Georgia since Feb. 13. While it did not identify the agency or the facility, the N.S.A. uses Pluribus contractors and opened a branch facility in the suburbs outside Augusta in 2012.
    The F.B.I. affidavit said reporters for the news outlet, which it also did not name, had approached the N.S.A. with questions for their story and, in the course of that dialogue, provided a copy of the document in their possession. An analysis of the file showed it was a scan of a copy that had been creased or folded, the affidavit said, “suggesting they had been printed and hand-carried out of a secured space.”
    The N.S.A.’s auditing system showed that six people had printed out the report, including Ms. Winner. Investigators examined the computers of those six people and found that Ms. Winner had been in email contact with the news outlet, but the other five had not. In a statement, the deputy attorney general, Rod J. Rosenstein, praised the operation.
    “Releasing classified material without authorization threatens our nation’s security and undermines public faith in government,” he said. “People who are trusted with classified information and pledge to protect it must be held accountable when they violate that obligation.”
    Espionage Act charges carry a sentence of up to 10 years in prison, although conventional leak cases have typically resulted in prison terms of one to three years.
    Once rare, leak cases have become far more common in the 21st century, in part because of electronic trails that make it easier for investigators to determine who both had access to a leaked document and was in contact with a reporter. Depending on how they are counted, the Obama administration brought nine or 10 leak-related prosecutions — about twice as many as were brought under all previous presidencies combined.
    Mr. Rosenstein helped prosecute one of them, a case against James E. Cartwright, a retired four-star Marine general and a former vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff accused of disclosing classified information to reporters. General Cartwright pleaded guilty to lying to investigators about his conversations with journalists but was later pardoned by President Barack Obama.
    Mr. Trump called for a crackdown in the context of leaks about what surveillance has shown about his own associates’ contacts with Russian officials. The report Ms. Winner is accused of leaking, by contrast, focuses on pre-election hacking operations targeting voter registration databases and does not mention the Trump campaign.
    The American intelligence community has concluded that Russia conducted a broad influence campaign for the purpose of undermining Hillary Clinton’s candidacy and sowing doubts about the democratic process if she had won.
    In October, when the Obama administration accused Russian of stealing and releasing Democratic emails, it also said there was a pattern of probing of voter registration-related systems that were traceable to Russian servers, but stopped short of saying the Russian government was behind them. The intelligence report, citing unspecified information the N.S.A. obtained in April, suggests the government is now satisfied that Moscow was the culprit.
    Both attacks described in the report relied on so-called spear phishing, a tactic that uses spoof emails to trick users into clicking links or opening attachments that then install malicious software on their computers. The G.R.U. sent the emails from two free American web-based email providers, Google’s Gmail and Microsoft’s Outlook.com, it said.
    The first attack, on Aug. 24, involved an attack on an American company “evidently to obtain information on elections-related software and hardware solutions.”
    The report masked the name of the software vendor, referring to it as “U.S. Company 1,” in keeping with standard minimization rules for intelligence reports based on surveillance. However, the report contained references to an electronic voter identification system used by poll workers and sold by VR Systems, a Florida company.
    VR Systems’ website said its products are used by jurisdictions in California, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, New York, North Carolina, Virginia and West Virginia. The firm’s chief operating officer, Ben Martin, did not respond to a voice mail message.
    That attack was likely successful. The report said the G.R.U. used data likely obtained from it to conduct the second set of attacks, a “voter registration themed spear-phishing campaign targeting U.S. local government organizations.”
    Specifically, it said, in late October or early November, the G.R.U. sent to 122 local elections officials emails designed to look like they were from that company and containing attachments designed to look like an updated system manual and checklist. Opening the attachment would download malicious software from a remote server, the report said.
    Russia’s president, Vladimir V. Putin, shifted last week from his blanket denials of meddling in the election and suggested that “patriotically minded” private Russian hackers could have been involved in the cyberattacks last year.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/intell ... li=BBnb7Kz
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    Re: Off Topic - Trump Unintelligble

    by Underdog » 09 Jun 2017, 00:37

    My money is on Trump,

    And now with Ex FBI Chief Robert Mueller taking over as a special investigator.

    The Dems got their wish but I feel that will be bad news for the Democrats when it's all said and done.
    Hopefully the special investigator can end this controversy one way or the other quickly.

    Friendly wager on who is closer to the truth? Loser has to use the avatar of the winner's choosing for the season. Call opening kickoff for the rams the cutoff if we don't know more? Only rule is avatar cannot be considered obscene or offensive to society at large
    Sure, that sounds like fun,, :lol: :lol: :lol:
    So is our bet a push? Trump was right in that Comey did say he wasn't part of the investigation 3 times but Comey was seemingly right (assuming he didn't lie under oath and nobody questioned his integrity today) that he asked him to not investigate Flynn. This whole thing is odd. I still wish there are tapes (me and everyone else).
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    Re: Off Topic - Trump Unintelligble

    by 69RamFan » 09 Jun 2017, 07:51

    No not a push yet,

    I think Comey is dirty, lets watch what happens,

    He is going to open up more doors, cause he is not going down alone....

    Starting with Loretta Lynch,,,, and the Obama administration

    Remember on my other post about the suit against him from the ex agent..

    This is all tied in together.....

    Everyone is wondering why would Comey admitted about leaking his memos to the media?

    I think he knows he is toast anyways, so it doesn't matter about the leaks, cause he is going to sing like a carney,,, :lol: :lol: :lol:
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    Re: Off Topic - Trump Unintelligble

    by harkin » 14 Jun 2017, 09:28

    Any news on whether the NYC Shakespeare In The Park will change Julius Caesar from a Trump facsimile getting stabbed to death by women and minorities to a white, middle-aged softball player getting shot by a Bernie Bro?

    Wonder if that will still get a standing ovation......
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    Re: Off Topic - Trump Unintelligble

    by Underdog » 15 Jun 2017, 16:29

    Any news on whether the NYC Shakespeare In The Park will change Julius Caesar from a Trump facsimile getting stabbed to death by women and minorities to a white, middle-aged softball player getting shot by a Bernie Bro?

    Wonder if that will still get a standing ovation......
    Why would you related a terrible occurrence in real life to a stage parody? That diminishes what happened to real life people, not actors who get up and have dinner later. If you want to politicize it how about this...it unsurprising it happened. We live in a country where guns are readily available, even to the unstable and Congress has a 6% approval rating because both sides seem to only stand for party power, getting re-elected and personal advancement. So now they cater to the fringes because they have to get party backing to show they are with the party cause. So instead of having congress be for the people, the bulk of the people, you get a stagnant bickering group of ideologues who have totally lost site of compromise and the 80/20 rule. The sad part is, something like this was probably more a matter of when than if. And the worst part is the voice of the people have become neutered to really affect change so you get lunatics like this taking matters into their own hands. Its tragic on every level.

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