Ukraine and FTX Crypto

[Rampager66]

A so called American who thinks this Ukraine deal is more important than our own country's current state of affairs is now stating things would right now be "worse" if Trump was the POTUS...un fuckin believable ....
Meanwhile Biden's wandering around like a Zombie in the Ukraine on Presidents day and Trump is in East Palestine Ohio doing what Presidents are supposed to do in the face of a disaster
Guess these Ohio people don't matter as much in his eyes either because Trumps scum.. Right????
Yep, I do believe all that free COVID $$$$ has turned the Doc into a full fledged commie openly using their talking points/narratives..
Duly noted...

[Rammer]

Ukraine and a train crash in Ohio? what do these two issues, have to do with each other?

Of course none of this has to do with Ukraine but the train crash? Yes, there was a train derailment in rural Ohio. The train had some chemicals but not chemicals but not listed as hazardous by the EPA. So, the rules in force were not so strict. ( Btw, your man Trump worked feverishly to lessen these kind of restrictions/regulations and reduce the power of the EPA). But I digress -- As far as I know nobody at all died in the train derailment, they did a control burnoff. There were some dead fish right by the area and some people are saying they have respiratory symptoms. Some are angry and afraid that the water and soil isn't safe. However, the EPA, state, county and local govt people (and train people for what it's worth) are all saying it's safe, even the people at the local fire dept pwople are saying it's safe. At the same time, though, the govt people are sending mixed signals - recommending that locals drink bottled water if they are afraid and demanding that the company spend millions and millions to possibly even buy out local land owners. Oh yeah, that buddigedge guy has been asleep at the wheel and republicans have seized on the issue to blame Biden. , So, what am I missing?

[ocram23]

what I can't believe is you guys are still talking about this

[Rammer]

what I can't believe is you guys are still talking about this

yeah. We are at a weird place. We seem to be headed for WWIII and we here, who all voted the same way in the last election ,can't even agree on what's happening and who the bad guys are. Plus, the issue itself isn't as important as a train derailment in rural Ohio that hasn't killed or dislocated a single person. It's so bizarre to me.

[Rampager66]

Ukraine and a train crash in Ohio? what do these two issues, have to do with each other?

Of course none of this has to do with Ukraine but the train crash? Yes, there was a train derailment in rural Ohio. The train had some chemicals but not chemicals but not listed as hazardous by the EPA. So, the rules in force were not so strict. ( Btw, your man Trump worked feverishly to lessen these kind of restrictions/regulations and reduce the power of the EPA). But I digress -- As far as I know nobody at all died in the train derailment, they did a control burnoff. There were some dead fish right by the area and some people are saying they have respiratory symptoms. Some are angry and afraid that the water and soil isn't safe. However, the EPA, state, county and local govt people (and train people for what it's worth) are all saying it's safe, even the people at the local fire dept pwople are saying it's safe. At the same time, though, the govt people are sending mixed signals - recommending that locals drink bottled water if they are afraid and demanding that the company spend millions and millions to possibly even buy out local land owners. Oh yeah, that buddigedge guy has been asleep at the wheel and republicans have seized on the issue to blame Biden. , So, what am I missing?

The local gov't or people are NOT saying any of the Bullshit about it being safe that you spew here... keep talking their narrative commie, undermining the severity of the situation and placing Americans last.

Not surprised you're showing ridicule towards the actual events in Ohio, unlike the pandemic, Is it because you can't make any $$$ off that situation so it doesn't merit worrying about.
I'm sure if this was in your neighborhood you would have the same devil may care attitude about it But at least you'd be closer to the $$$ being pilfered from peoples misery... again!

[Rammer]

Ukraine and a train crash in Ohio? what do these two issues, have to do with each other?

Of course none of this has to do with Ukraine but the train crash? Yes, there was a train derailment in rural Ohio. The train had some chemicals but not chemicals but not listed as hazardous by the EPA. So, the rules in force were not so strict. ( Btw, your man Trump worked feverishly to lessen these kind of restrictions/regulations and reduce the power of the EPA). But I digress -- As far as I know nobody at all died in the train derailment, they did a control burnoff. There were some dead fish right by the area and some people are saying they have respiratory symptoms. Some are angry and afraid that the water and soil isn't safe. However, the EPA, state, county and local govt people (and train people for what it's worth) are all saying it's safe, even the people at the local fire dept pwople are saying it's safe. At the same time, though, the govt people are sending mixed signals - recommending that locals drink bottled water if they are afraid and demanding that the company spend millions and millions to possibly even buy out local land owners. Oh yeah, that buddigedge guy has been asleep at the wheel and republicans have seized on the issue to blame Biden. , So, what am I missing?

The local gov't or people are NOT saying any of the Bullshit about it being safe that you spew here... keep talking their narrative commie, undermining the severity of the situation and placing Americans last.

I am a commie now? lol. I saw them at the local fire station drinking the tap water and saying they were concerned about the misinformation that was out there. These were the local firemen..... I know, it was on cable tv which means it was msm and clearly all staged. Look, If i lived there i would be concerned but not panicked. ..... They have to continue monitoring and testing. If levels rise above acceptable norms, they have to fix it. The people need to get reimbursed if any outlay and for some reason they have to relocate.. That's it. It is what it is. A train derailment. It's not a f5 tornado, a cat 5 hurricane, it's not chernobyl.

[Rampager66]

The local gov't or people are NOT saying any of the Bullshit about it being safe that you spew here... keep talking their narrative commie, undermining the severity of the situation and placing Americans last.

I am a commie now? lol. I saw them at the local fire station drinking the tap water and saying they were concerned about the misinformation that was out there. These were the local firemen..... I know, it was on cable tv which means it was msm and clearly all staged. Look, If i lived there i would be concerned but not panicked. ..... They have to continue monitoring and testing. If levels rise above acceptable norms, they have to fix it. The people need to get reimbursed if any outlay and for some reason they have to relocate.. That's it. It is what it is. A train derailment. It's not a f5 tornado, a cat 5 hurricane, it's not chernobyl.

Guess you missed all the Firemen accompanying Trump to the McDonalds and handing out thousands of bottles of water all over town...
Keep ignoring all the videos out there from the locals absolutely saying the exact opposite of your self anointed expert opinions on the area, people and the situation... another lib trait...
For you to undermine the severity of it is pathetic and self serving...AFAIC.
You found a couple Biden supporter Firemen clinging on to Pete B and babbling his talking points on ABC and here you are reciting them verbatim.... again!

Pete himself is seen saying the very thing you did here about misinformation and then he suddenly lost his chain of thought and took no more questions... You are actually defending this incompetent guys lack of action because you want to use his BS.. as a source... really?? wow!
Is the TDS that thick and heavy within you bro... so much so that you will even accept and use known MSM/Dem BS as quotable fact? just wow!

[ocram23]

I am a commie now? lol. I saw them at the local fire station drinking the tap water and saying they were concerned about the misinformation that was out there. These were the local firemen..... I know, it was on cable tv which means it was msm and clearly all staged. Look, If i lived there i would be concerned but not panicked. ..... They have to continue monitoring and testing. If levels rise above acceptable norms, they have to fix it. The people need to get reimbursed if any outlay and for some reason they have to relocate.. That's it. It is what it is. A train derailment. It's not a f5 tornado, a cat 5 hurricane, it's not chernobyl.

Guess you missed all the Firemen accompanying Trump to the McDonalds and handing out thousands of bottles of water all over town...
Keep ignoring all the videos out there from the locals absolutely saying the exact opposite of your self anointed expert opinions on the area, people and the situation... another lib trait...
For you to undermine the severity of it is pathetic and self serving...AFAIC.
You found a couple Biden supporter Firemen clinging on to Pete B and babbling his talking points on ABC and here you are reciting them verbatim.... again!

Pete himself is seen saying the very thing you did here about misinformation and then he suddenly lost his chain of thought and took no more questions... You are actually defending this incompetent guys lack of action because you want to use his BS.. as a source... really?? wow!
Is the TDS that thick and heavy within you bro... so much so that you will even accept and use known MSM/Dem BS as quotable fact? just wow!

sorry to jump in here but just curious on what the conspiracy is behind the trail derailment. what are you saying?

[HellRam]

My word.

Yeah I prefer facts over rhetoric. Of course those nations want to join NATO! Who wouldn't? I mean what country doesn't want free services and money. Trump was absolutely correct when he said NATO doesn't serve a real purpose other then the American tax payer doing the bidding for other countries. It's a crock. Well except for the foreign countries benefitting off it.

At the end of the day we have spent more on this war then all the countries in Europe combined. Sorry, but that doesn't fit your narrative in any matter.


I prefer diplomacy over war. Unfortunately,our new policy is the latter. We sure could use a Trump right now. Despite how much both the left and right have disdain for him.

Like I said before, you can argue about the money we spent as opposed to Europe and that is a legit debate. But to not admit the truth about what Russia is doing, not legit.

Regarding Trump - Even though I voted for him, now I can't even imagine where we would be if Trump had won. Scary scenario. I don't like Biden but I am glad Trump isn't in power. At the time, I thought he was trying to make wimpy and greedy European countries pay their fair share. I agreed with that. Looking back, though, I realize that he was actually trying to dismantle NATO. He was Putin's puppet.

To your point about countries joining Nato only for economic benefit - ridiculous. It's easy for you to say from the US but if you were living on Russia's border in a small European country -you would want to be part of Nato too. I am 100% sure of that.

Preferring diplomacy to war? Who doesn't? I'll answer that, Putin. The US and Europe was so much on the side of negotiating and not doing anything too provocative that Putin thought we all lacked the will to stand up to his invasion.

You really have gone off the deep end regarding this topic.

So let me get this straight. Trump is Putins puppet? Yet....Russia and Chine have both became economically stronger under Biden. Nevermind Chinese spy balloons or Russia invading Ukraine under Bidens watch.

And NATO is worthless! What does it serve other then starting ww3 at this point? Its America who is financially obligated to NATO! And it's America who will do most of the fighting when/if the time came. NATO is a political organization and nothing more. The 80s are long gone bud. Catch up.

[Rammer]

I am a commie now? lol. I saw them at the local fire station drinking the tap water and saying they were concerned about the misinformation that was out there. These were the local firemen..... I know, it was on cable tv which means it was msm and clearly all staged. Look, If i lived there i would be concerned but not panicked. ..... They have to continue monitoring and testing. If levels rise above acceptable norms, they have to fix it. The people need to get reimbursed if any outlay and for some reason they have to relocate.. That's it. It is what it is. A train derailment. It's not a f5 tornado, a cat 5 hurricane, it's not chernobyl.

Guess you missed all the Firemen accompanying Trump to the McDonalds and handing out thousands of bottles of water all over town...
Keep ignoring all the videos out there from the locals absolutely saying the exact opposite of your self anointed expert opinions on the area, people and the situation... another lib trait...
For you to undermine the severity of it is pathetic and self serving...AFAIC.
You found a couple Biden supporter Firemen clinging on to Pete B and babbling his talking points on ABC and here you are reciting them verbatim.... again!

Pete himself is seen saying the very thing you did here about misinformation and then he suddenly lost his chain of thought and took no more questions... You are actually defending this incompetent guys lack of action because you want to use his BS.. as a source... really?? wow!
Is the TDS that thick and heavy within you bro... so much so that you will even accept and use known MSM/Dem BS as quotable fact? just wow!

oh geez. where did I defend anybody? I even said Petee was asleep at the wheel, meaning he was slow to respond and/or neglagent.. ..It's just not (at this point, at least) the big giant conspiracy chernobyl disaster that you want it to be. Sorry.

[Rammer]

Like I said before, you can argue about the money we spent as opposed to Europe and that is a legit debate. But to not admit the truth about what Russia is doing, not legit.

Regarding Trump - Even though I voted for him, now I can't even imagine where we would be if Trump had won. Scary scenario. I don't like Biden but I am glad Trump isn't in power. At the time, I thought he was trying to make wimpy and greedy European countries pay their fair share. I agreed with that. Looking back, though, I realize that he was actually trying to dismantle NATO. He was Putin's puppet.

To your point about countries joining Nato only for economic benefit - ridiculous. It's easy for you to say from the US but if you were living on Russia's border in a small European country -you would want to be part of Nato too. I am 100% sure of that.

Preferring diplomacy to war? Who doesn't? I'll answer that, Putin. The US and Europe was so much on the side of negotiating and not doing anything too provocative that Putin thought we all lacked the will to stand up to his invasion.

You really have gone off the deep end regarding this topic.

So let me get this straight. Trump is Putins puppet? Yet....Russia and Chine have both became economically stronger under Biden. Nevermind Chinese spy balloons or Russia invading Ukraine under Bidens watch.

And NATO is worthless! What does it serve other then starting ww3 at this point? Its America who is financially obligated to NATO! And it's America who will do most of the fighting when/if the time came. NATO is a political organization and nothing more. The 80s are long gone bud. Catch up.

Last post of the day for me.

1 Russia is managing but their economy has contracted by 2.1%. Chinas economy has also contracted too. This is due to Covid shutdowns but get informed.
2 Chinese spy balloons are a problem
3 perceived weakness of Biden may have played a role in Putin's decision to invade.
4 You and the Donald may think NATO is worthless and outdated but you are in the minority. Our political leaders from both sides, our military leadership, our NATO partners, the general public don't believe that. Clearly, Putin doesn't believe that either because he is very very obsessed with NATO. Why so obsessed with this "political organization and nothing more"?

[HellRam]

You really have gone off the deep end regarding this topic.

So let me get this straight. Trump is Putins puppet? Yet....Russia and Chine have both became economically stronger under Biden. Nevermind Chinese spy balloons or Russia invading Ukraine under Bidens watch.

And NATO is worthless! What does it serve other then starting ww3 at this point? Its America who is financially obligated to NATO! And it's America who will do most of the fighting when/if the time came. NATO is a political organization and nothing more. The 80s are long gone bud. Catch up.

Last post of the day for me.

1 Russia is managing but their economy has contracted by 2.1%. Chinas economy has also contracted too. This is due to Covid shutdowns but get informed.
2 Chinese spy balloons are a problem
3 perceived weakness of Biden may have played a role in Putin's decision to invade.
4 You and the Donald may think NATO is worthless and outdated but you are in the minority. Our political leaders from both sides, our military leadership, our NATO partners, the general public don't believe that. Clearly, Putin doesn't believe that either because he is very very obsessed with NATO. Why so obsessed with this "political organization and nothing more"?

Because that political organization is conspiring against his country. Precisely why diplomacy is so important. But instead we got ideologues. Bulls in a china shop per se. I would argue if our politicians are for it, we should be against it. However, me and you greatly disagree on the intentions of our leaders. You have faith in them. I think many of them are pure evil.

[Rampager66]

Get a load of this global warming going on in the bay area... oh wait it's no longer called that for some reason
Wonder what they'll be calling it 10 years from now

[Rampager66]

Here's a decent take on how things really are over in Ukraine.... Guy doesn't seem to show bias either way imo.

[Rampager66]

Yeah, this one's for the MSM robots who don't think for themselves but insist "everyone" or "we all" think the same...
Protests of NATO and the US involvement in the Ukraine in the EU...

[UplandRam]

This sounds reasonable to me. It’s certainly worth discussing and finding some common ground. Some people don’t want the war to end.
https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/zxxx_6 ... 30713.html

[HellRam]

This sounds reasonable to me. It’s certainly worth discussing and finding some common ground. Some people don’t want the war to end.
https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/zxxx_6 ... 30713.html

And it won't end. This was an engineered war which is precisely why every attempt at peace has been denied without any real consideration. Those of us that actually have followed this ordeal knew this war was in making for the last 10 years roughly. Just in time for when we pulled out of Afghanistan

[RGtheFirst]

Ukraine and a train crash in Ohio? what do these two issues, have to do with each other?

Of course none of this has to do with Ukraine but the train crash? Yes, there was a train derailment in rural Ohio. The train had some chemicals but not chemicals but not listed as hazardous by the EPA. So, the rules in force were not so strict. ( Btw, your man Trump worked feverishly to lessen these kind of restrictions/regulations and reduce the power of the EPA). But I digress -- As far as I know nobody at all died in the train derailment, they did a control burnoff. There were some dead fish right by the area and some people are saying they have respiratory symptoms. Some are angry and afraid that the water and soil isn't safe. However, the EPA, state, county and local govt people (and train people for what it's worth) are all saying it's safe, even the people at the local fire dept pwople are saying it's safe. At the same time, though, the govt people are sending mixed signals - recommending that locals drink bottled water if they are afraid and demanding that the company spend millions and millions to possibly even buy out local land owners. Oh yeah, that buddigedge guy has been asleep at the wheel and republicans have seized on the issue to blame Biden. , So, what am I missing?

The local gov't or people are NOT saying any of the Bullshit about it being safe that you spew here... keep talking their narrative commie, undermining the severity of the situation and placing Americans last.

Not surprised you're showing ridicule towards the actual events in Ohio, unlike the pandemic, Is it because you can't make any $$$ off that situation so it doesn't merit worrying about.
I'm sure if this was in your neighborhood you would have the same devil may care attitude about it But at least you'd be closer to the $$$ being pilfered from peoples misery... again!

And by the way, Trump had nothing to do with it… nada
So they can take their Rachel Maddie talking points and shove them where the sun don’t shine.

[HellRam]

They are practically mocking us at this point. No one is this tone-deaf.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023 ... -invasion/

[ocram23]

I for one am tired of this administration still blaming Trump for everything. The latest is Biden blaming him for the border crisis. We need to stop giving Ukraine aid period. too many other issues within the US to take care of.

[Rammer]

The local gov't or people are NOT saying any of the Bullshit about it being safe that you spew here... keep talking their narrative commie, undermining the severity of the situation and placing Americans last.

Not surprised you're showing ridicule towards the actual events in Ohio, unlike the pandemic, Is it because you can't make any $$$ off that situation so it doesn't merit worrying about.
I'm sure if this was in your neighborhood you would have the same devil may care attitude about it But at least you'd be closer to the $$$ being pilfered from peoples misery... again!

And by the way, Trump had nothing to do with it… nada
So they can take their Rachel Maddie talking points and shove them where the sun don’t shine.
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Like I said , if the train derailment was in my neighborhood I would be concerned. Not panicked. I would want testing and continued monitoring of water and soil. That’s it.
I wouldn’t be out there trying to pressure and extort money for my perceived property loss.

[Rampager66]

And by the way, Trump had nothing to do with it… nada
So they can take their Rachel Maddie talking points and shove them where the sun don’t shine.
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Like I said , if the train derailment was in my neighborhood I would be concerned. Not panicked. I would want testing and continued monitoring of water and soil. That’s it.
I wouldn’t be out there trying to pressure and extort money for my perceived property loss.

I think you need to educate yourself a little better on the repercussions ongoing bro!
The environmentalist horn blowing People now want us to look the other way from, to use their own language when scolding others.... the ever spreading carbon footprint... they have the biggest role in causing with their imbecilic "controlled burn" act.
The fallout from this ordeal is now being felt in the surrounding states.

Nobody's trying to extort money, get a grip on that conscience and stop projecting Doc!
People are sick and suffering, animals/fish have dropped dead.
Just because Biden, Fudgie and MSM tell you there's no big deal doesn't make it so.... but here you are again.
Have you seen the pictures of the mess and clean up that will be required.
The feds ordered them to do the controlled burn, they should send financial aid.
And yet Biden doesn't want to send any $$ because it's slated for the rinse cycle in the Ukraine... and you know it..

[HellRam]