Ramsey to Miami…….

[BrooklynRam74]

[Ramsfan08ny]

We were on the receiving end of Jalen's demands 4 years ago. We thought bringing him to L.A. would keep him content for the rest of his career. But a leopard doesn't change his spots and now we are on Jacksonville's end Circa 2019. The guy wants his money, not worth the tab.

Amen. Move forward. Some of these guys who got that treasured ring are now playing for the "me" factor. Continue cleaning house and build for the future.............I'd love for the next call to come from pittsburg!

[sanbagger]

I thought they would assume 100%? you telling me the Rams are still going to be on the hook for him?

I have no idea how these contracts work.. you trade the player, you SHOULD also trade the contract. This dead cap shit makes no sense. None of us seem to understand how this crap works.

Yea, there's always tricky little items and wording and that's why teams have capologists.

I do know this....say a guy signs a 5 year contract and gets a 10 million signing bonus...he gets the 10 million right away and the team can spread the amount over the 5 years against the cap....so....if they backload 8 million of the cap hit to years 4 and 5 and then trade him after 3 years...they still owe the 8 million cap hit.

[NorCal RF]

Take it for what it is worth…….

“ The Rams would save $5.6 million in cap space if they trade Ramsey, who has three years and $74.6 million cap number remaining on a five-year, $100 million contract that started in 2021. ”

It appears we made the trade to not have to deal with him moving forward in regards to contract demands. The trade doesn’t do much in freeing up $ for the 23 season…….

[ocram23]

Take it for what it is worth…….

“ The Rams would save $5.6 million in cap space if they trade Ramsey, who has three years and $74.6 million cap number remaining on a five-year, $100 million contract that started in 2021. ”

It appears we made the trade to not have to deal with him moving forward in regards to contract demands. The trade doesn’t do much in freeing up $ for the 23 season…….

100% rebuild and IMO nobody is off limits now. just call it what it is

[HellRam]

I get doing all this next year after AD possibly retires and Stafford is that much older. But doing it now still seems counter productive.

7/8 wins is too much for a real shot at a QB in the draft in 2023. So the hope is Stafford can actually hold up for atleast 2 or 3 years in time to be around for the finished rebuild? I'm still perplexed what the end game is here?

[NorCal RF]

Take it for what it is worth…….

“ The Rams would save $5.6 million in cap space if they trade Ramsey, who has three years and $74.6 million cap number remaining on a five-year, $100 million contract that started in 2021. ”

It appears we made the trade to not have to deal with him moving forward in regards to contract demands. The trade doesn’t do much in freeing up $ for the 23 season…….

100% rebuild and IMO nobody is off limits now. just call it what it is

I’m beginning to think the vision is 2024 and beyond………

[ocram23]

100% rebuild and IMO nobody is off limits now. just call it what it is

I’m beginning to think the vision is 2024 and beyond………

look at you finally coming to your senses. I told you a long time ago it's 3 yrs

[NorCal RF]

From Breer:

Some more background on the Rams’ end of this …

• Rams clear cap/cash—something had to give, this is it.

• Return for LA limited by teams scared off on contract asks of a 29-year-old CB.

• Had it not been a team Ramsey was excited by, ask might’ve been bigger.

[NorCal RF]

I’m beginning to think the vision is 2024 and beyond………

look at you finally coming to your senses. I told you a long time ago it's 3 yrs

My senses never left……..

Rebuild isn’t isn’t defined as just one year. Last year wasn’t a rebuild in the eye of the team in August I guarantee……..

I rarely budge easily lol and that holds true here………

[NorCal RF]

More from Breer:

Rams like TE Hunter Long coming out, and third-rounder gives LA another way to bring affordable talent on.

• Rams like their young CBs (Cobie Durant, Derion Kendrick, Robert Rochell).

• Dolphins get a versatile piece that fits Vic Fangio’s defense.

• Rams had 5 suitors.

JMO not happy with a lot of what he said as it relates to Rams thinking with this trade. Again 4 other suitors? Those 4 didn’t have a better offer than the one they settled on? Why again the need to provide a solid to Ramsey?………

[UplandRam]

[ocram23]

More from Breer:

Rams like TE Hunter Long coming out, and third-rounder gives LA another way to bring affordable talent on.

• Rams like their young CBs (Cobie Durant, Derion Kendrick, Robert Rochell).

• Dolphins get a versatile piece that fits Vic Fangio’s defense.

• Rams had 5 suitors.

JMO not happy with a lot of what he said as it relates to Rams thinking with this trade. Again 4 other suitors? Those 4 didn’t have a better offer than the one they settled on? Why again the need to provide a solid to Ramsey?………

they obviously took the best deal and/or got him out of the NFC as well

[Ramsfan08ny]

With tweets like that, more than happy to see him go.

[ocram23]

JR better be disciplined down in Miami. Remember what happened the last time he traveled down there.

[Cornell29]

Ramsey wanted a new deal including the last two years guaranteed. This reduced the teams willing to trade for him. Rams also wanted him out of the NFC.

https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2023/3/12 ... phins-rams

[Cornell29]

[NorCal RF]

More from Breer:

Rams like TE Hunter Long coming out, and third-rounder gives LA another way to bring affordable talent on.

• Rams like their young CBs (Cobie Durant, Derion Kendrick, Robert Rochell).

• Dolphins get a versatile piece that fits Vic Fangio’s defense.

• Rams had 5 suitors.

JMO not happy with a lot of what he said as it relates to Rams thinking with this trade. Again 4 other suitors? Those 4 didn’t have a better offer than the one they settled on? Why again the need to provide a solid to Ramsey?………

they obviously took the best deal and/or got him out of the NFC as well

I would like to hear what the other worse offers were……

I’m not naive though to think we will ever know………

[DelMar]

So does anyone else want to question that we aren’t setting up 2024 yet?

Goodness gracious… writing has been on the wall for weeks.

2023 is a building year w the young guys. Draft a crap load and get rid of the dead weight and dead cap…

2024… first round picks. Tons of cap space and an owner that will splurge.

One step back to get two forward boys…

But if you ya’ll want to say we’re going to be really competitive for ‘23… well, if was nice knowing you fans. Lol.

[NorCal RF]

I think the concern of having to potentially game plan for a player is a weak one. Doesn’t show a lot of confidence………

I will never be convinced they couldn’t have done better than a 3rd round pick……..

[DelMar]

Ramsey wanted a new deal including the last two years guaranteed. This reduced the teams willing to trade for him. Rams also wanted him out of the NFC.

https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2023/3/12 ... phins-rams

after reading this…. DAMN AM I GLAD this dude is gone.

Sure, we’ll miss him… but not at that kind of money! What a joke.

[Hacksaw]

I guess Jaylen Ramsey lost a lot of value playing for us. Either that or we buy high and sell low.
We coughed up (2) 1st's and a 4th to get him and only get back at 3rd and a possible stiff.

[DelMar]

I think the concern of having to potentially game plan for a player is a weak one. Doesn’t show a lot of confidence………

I will never be convinced they couldn’t have done better than a 3rd round pick……..

The reason to me we didn’t get better than a 3rd imo was in the Cornell post on what Ramsey was demanding w a new contract and more guaranteed money.

Now, if JR wasn’t so demanding, we should have gotten a 2nd, maybe even a 1st…

Who knows. But, bizarre… I agree

[Ramsfan08ny]

So does anyone else want to question that we aren’t setting up 2024 yet?

Goodness gracious… writing has been on the wall for weeks.

2023 is a building year w the young guys. Draft a crap load and get rid of the dead weight and dead cap…

2024… first round picks. Tons of cap space and an owner that will splurge.

One step back to get two forward boys…

But if you ya’ll want to say we’re going to be really competitive for ‘23… well, if was nice knowing you fans. Lol.

That's the way I'm looking at it. I guess that's the way I GOTTA look at it. 23 might be another painful year, but it's a build towards 24. It's the NFL, and the cap. All teams that live in the top for a few years eventually have to pay the visa bill. Just hope they use the picks wisely, and have plenty of cap space this time next year.

[ocram23]

yes I think it is a foregone conclusion to not think the Rams will have a top 10 pick in 2024. Floyd is next and possibly Higbee. Also other guys not begin resigned. 2023 is going to be a long year but I think most of us realize this was the reality due to going all in for the SB win.

[Ramsfan08ny]

I guess Jaylen Ramsey lost a lot of value playing for us. Either that or we buy high and sell low.
We coughed up (2) 1st's and a 4th to get him and only get back at 3rd and a possible stiff.

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I'll hold off judgement on Long until I see what Mcvay does with him. Miami's starting TE had 52 targets. Higbee had 108. Miami obviously doesn't value the TE in the passing game. Long did have 700 yards receiving his final year of college. So I'm going to try and be optimistic.

[NorCal RF]

I think the concern of having to potentially game plan for a player is a weak one. Doesn’t show a lot of confidence………

I will never be convinced they couldn’t have done better than a 3rd round pick……..

The reason to me we didn’t get better than a 3rd imo was in the Cornell post on what Ramsey was demanding w a new contract and more guaranteed money.

Now, if JR wasn’t so demanding, we should have gotten a 2nd, maybe even a 1st…

Who knows. But, bizarre… I agree

Agree who knows on what those other 4 suitors were willing to offer……..

But this in the NFL. A league that values his position and is still considered by many as a top tier player at his position. I don’t think his contract demands scares off all……..

I for some reason think this has a lot to do with the rams doing what Ramsey wanted as much as anything once they decided they were going to trade him. JMO if true not a good business practice.

[ocram23]

The reason to me we didn’t get better than a 3rd imo was in the Cornell post on what Ramsey was demanding w a new contract and more guaranteed money.

Now, if JR wasn’t so demanding, we should have gotten a 2nd, maybe even a 1st…

Who knows. But, bizarre… I agree

Agree who knows on what those other 4 suitors were willing to offer……..

But this in the NFL. A league that values his position and is still considered by many as a top tier player at his position………

I for some reason think this has a lot to do with the rams doing what Ramsey wanted as much as anything once they decided they were going to trade him. JMO if true not a good business practice.

I also believe they did not want him going to an NFC team. I hope Snead didn't bend over to make JR happy. I sincerely doubt he did and we will never know.
Just a shitting deal for the Rams for the fact what they received in return.

[NorCal RF]

Agree who knows on what those other 4 suitors were willing to offer……..

But this in the NFL. A league that values his position and is still considered by many as a top tier player at his position………

I for some reason think this has a lot to do with the rams doing what Ramsey wanted as much as anything once they decided they were going to trade him. JMO if true not a good business practice.

I also believe they did not want him going to an NFC team. I hope Snead didn't bend over to make JR happy. I sincerely doubt he did and we will never know.
Just a shitting deal for the Rams for the fact what they received in return.

I believe the NFC thing is probably true and I think it’s a damn poor reason not to trade him to an NFC team if the offer was better than the one you eventually accepted…….

[Raminec]

yes I think it is a foregone conclusion to not think the Rams will have a top 10 pick in 2024. Floyd is next and possibly Higbee. Also other guys not begin resigned. 2023 is going to be a long year but I think most of us realize this was the reality due to going all in for the SB win.

Floyd was cut already. The Ramsey deal frees up some money in 23 and more in 24 which might be used to sign Gaines or Robinson. I look at the NFC in general and still see the Rams contending for the NFC West and a playoff spot if Kupp and Stafford return to health. Rams have the draft capital to do a 2017 type reload as opposed to a total rebuild. They just need a great draft like 2017. With draft choices at 36, 69 and 77 they can find players at positions of need that can help immediately and still have 8 draft picks to get much needed depth at cap friendly prices. This is a retool not a rebuild.