Mcvay has Changed

[Safety Blitz]

Early on, he would always say that he himself has to do much better...frequently owning his mistakes and shortcomings. Has he admitted yet that he screwed up big time vs Cincy?

Take a humility pill, dude.

[brasilrams]

Early on, he would always say that he himself has to do much better...frequently owning his mistakes and shortcomings. Has he admitted yet that he screwed up big time vs Cincy?

Take a humility pill, dude.

I was shocked to see , but he said that he still thinks it was the right call to punt with a lil less than 6 minutes left and down by 10 points . Maybe he also thinks it is the right call to give up on every third and long , and also the right call to manage the game like he did when there was 2:30 left .

[Safety Blitz]

Sad. And his relationships with RBS is pathological.

[Rams fan since 1973]

Now both McVay & Lafleur doubling down on their offensive game plan? They should really just keep their mouths shut.

[Commish]

Now both McVay & Lafleur doubling down on their offensive game plan? They should really just keep their mouths shut.

Agreed!

When the head coach confesses after a loss that "I have to do better," and in that particular case he's 100% correct, then he damn well actually needs to consistently *do better* from that point onward.

With Sean McVay, it usually just sounds like an automatic loser's 'mantra'...

RAM SEASON!!

--The Commish

[Utah Rams Fan]

I’m giving him until Sunday to change his ways or I’m moving to the get rid of McVay crowd.

[duanevalle22]

I can't believe the last game is still being talked about. I'm assuming a lot of you have played football at least at the pop warner or high school level, or even sports in general. You're taught to move on and get ready for the next game ASAP.

1. If you lose or win you take a day to look at film to evaluate, discuss and move on to the next opponent. Basically you need a short term memory mechanism so the whole week or season doesn't turn into a cry baby bitchfest over a singular event. Basically get the fuck over it and make the adjustments.

2. Ya McVay has made some questionable calls, but the players still have to perform and in particular Stafford. If Stafford had played four solid quarters of football the Rams could easily be 3-0.... but they're not so the goal is to get to 2-2.

3. No mistakes. I know they happen but let's hope we don't see a continuing trend this weekend with certain players making the same mistakes. If so, then consider a personnel change. I think the Rams RB situation is under a microscope right now.

[grackler]

The simple fact is that McVays's dufus play-calling cost us the Bengal game. The guy seems chronically unable to change course during a game when his strategy is clearly not working. Even the national announcers couldn't believe he just continued to call pass play after pass play when the run game had proved effective in the previous two games.

I'm off the McVay bandwagon....his time has passed.

[D-GenerationX]

Yeah, because lord knows anytime a coach says "that's on me" or "I need to do better", everyone on message boards accepts that in the spirit in which it was said and never, EVER then makes pissy comments about it.

C'mon, huh? Get real.

Too many of you just like to bitch. You'd bitch if he said what he said...but would also bitch if he said that you claim he *should* have said. Convenient.

What an unhappy existence that must be.

He called a bad game. It happens. We can either move on to the Colts, or all fold our arms, stomp our feet, and threaten to hold our breath over a past event we can't change.

I know which what I'm going with it. I'd encourage you all to join me.

Kickoff is at 1 PM EST.

[Claremontram]

The key is fix your mistakes. Gunslinger Stafford needs to stop fitting the ball into tight windows with 3 defenders. We must limit our interceptions and we will start winning games. Our RB needs to catch the damn ball and move upfield too.

McVay will be fine, and so will our team.

Smash Indy!

[DelMar]

Yeah, because lord knows anytime a coach says "that's on me" or "I need to do better", everyone on message boards accepts that in the spirit in which it was said and never, EVER then makes pissy comments about it.

C'mon, huh? Get real.

Too many of you just like to bitch. You'd bitch if he said what he said...but would also bitch if he said that you claim he *should* have said. Convenient.

What an unhappy existence that must be.

He called a bad game. It happens. We can either move on to the Colts, or all fold our arms, stomp our feet, and threaten to hold our breath over a past event we can't change.

I know which what I'm going with it. I'd encourage you all to join me.

Kickoff is at 1 PM EST.

Maybe we should talk about your favorite topic again then... So let's discuss the CRAPPY uniforms.

[brasilrams]

I am going to say this one last time . My BIGGEST issue is actually not about him abandoning the run game as problematic as that is because it is a TREND he can't seem to fix it and it has been happening since 2017. But my biggest issue is actually not even that . It is the WAY he calls the game ITSELF . I have never in my life see a coach that gives up on EVERY third and long( it doesn't matter the situation or the time left on the clock) , he just GIVES UP - ALWAYS calls a run and punt ( this is the same thing as punting the ball on third down ) . He is way too conservative , to the point that it looks like a coward . He won't even go for any 4th and one . ANY .

His time out usage has also been a problem since he got here and he never FIXED IT . His game clock management is also very problematic ( the sequence when the clock hit 2:30 and we were down by 10 was completely wrong ) . Oh well , honestly I lost faith that he can correct his flaws and that is very disencouraging .

[Utah Rams Fan]

I can't believe the last game is still being talked about. I'm assuming a lot of you have played football at least at the pop warner or high school level, or even sports in general. You're taught to move on and get ready for the next game ASAP.

1. If you lose or win you take a day to look at film to evaluate, discuss and move on to the next opponent. Basically you need a short term memory mechanism so the whole week or season doesn't turn into a cry baby bitchfest over a singular event. Basically get the fuck over it and make the adjustments.

2. Ya McVay has made some questionable calls, but the players still have to perform and in particular Stafford. If Stafford had played four solid quarters of football the Rams could easily be 3-0.... but they're not so the goal is to get to 2-2.

3. No mistakes. I know they happen but let's hope we don't see a continuing trend this weekend with certain players making the same mistakes. If so, then consider a personnel change. I think the Rams RB situation is under a microscope right now.

We are talking about this because it’s been a pattern, not just the last game.

[BrooklynRam74]

I am going to say this one last time . My BIGGEST issue is actually not about him abandoning the run game as problematic as that is because it is a TREND he can't seem to fix it and it has been happening since 2017. But my biggest issue is actually not even that . It is the WAY he calls the game ITSELF . I have never in my life see a coach that gives up on EVERY third and long( it doesn't matter the situation or the time left on the clock) , he just GIVES UP - ALWAYS calls a run and punt ( this is the same thing as punting the ball on third down ) . He is way too conservative , to the point that it looks like a coward . He won't even go for any 4th and one . ANY .

His time out usage has also been a problem since he got here and he never FIXED IT . His game clock management is also very problematic ( the sequence when the clock hit 2:30 and we were down by 10 was completely wrong ) . Oh well , honestly I lost faith that he can correct his flaws and that is very disencouraging .

I first noticed he started "punting" on 3rd and Long in 2020 but I thought that that was a "Jared Goff " thing. Guess not.

The timeout thing. Since he got here. Probably not fixable. He's Mike Martz (in that department)

[Raminec]

Early on, he would always say that he himself has to do much better...frequently owning his mistakes and shortcomings. Has he admitted yet that he screwed up big time vs Cincy?

Take a humility pill, dude.

I could care less if he owned up to his mistakes in press conferences or in the media. We heard him take responsibility forever especially when Goff was the QB. It was always “I need to do a better job “. That was followed by no changes and a lot more coach speak. I just want them to look at the film from this game and make adjustments. I’m not sure exactly how much influence LaFleur has in the actual offensive game plan but if he does have any he needs to be accountable for the poor approach especially in the red zone early. McVay has ultimate control of the actual play calling and influence on the protections with his personnel package choices. He is responsible for in game decision making . Lastly both McVay and LaFleur stated that play’s can be changed from a run to a pass or pass to a run at the line of scrimmage by Matthew Stafford. How many runs did he check out to a pass on Monday night? Stafford is a veteran QB yet he needed McVay to call time out for him TWICE to avoid delay of game penalties. What is going on inside his head that he can’t remember to check the play clock? Lastly Stafford has latitude and ability to make changes to the protections so couldn’t he have moved a TE over to help the backup LT who was exposed? Why didn’t he see the CB blitz coming right in front of him and get the ball out?

LaFleur, McVay and Stafford need to get on the same page. Stafford has to stop playing HERO ball and play like a VETERAN QB. Sometimes that means checking out of bad pass play calls to a run. I don’t care about the no look passes. The thrill of those went out the window in last year’s dumpster fire. The interceptions are killing this team and 3 of the 4 interceptions were squarely on his back because they were forced balls into heavy coverage and I believe all three were on first down. That’s just damn poor decision making and execution on the part of a VETERAN QB. LaFleur, McVay and Stafford can fix this offense if they learn to work together and most importantly execute their game plan better.

[DelMar]

You guys do realized the OP is Safety blitz, aka hangtime, aka rupert... right?

I mean what is this.. his 4th handle?.

LOL. Cracks me up when people take his post seriously.

[brasilrams]

I am going to say this one last time . My BIGGEST issue is actually not about him abandoning the run game as problematic as that is because it is a TREND he can't seem to fix it and it has been happening since 2017. But my biggest issue is actually not even that . It is the WAY he calls the game ITSELF . I have never in my life see a coach that gives up on EVERY third and long( it doesn't matter the situation or the time left on the clock) , he just GIVES UP - ALWAYS calls a run and punt ( this is the same thing as punting the ball on third down ) . He is way too conservative , to the point that it looks like a coward . He won't even go for any 4th and one . ANY .

His time out usage has also been a problem since he got here and he never FIXED IT . His game clock management is also very problematic ( the sequence when the clock hit 2:30 and we were down by 10 was completely wrong ) . Oh well , honestly I lost faith that he can correct his flaws and that is very disencouraging .

I first noticed he started "punting" on 3rd and Long in 2020 but I thought that that was a "Jared Goff " thing. Guess not.

The timeout thing. Since he got here. Probably not fixable. He's Mike Martz (in that department)

EXACTLY same thing . I thought he didn't have faith in Goff that is why he was doing it . But it is the same with Staff . It is just the way he is and I HATE IT . Like I said , I want anyone to point me ONE SINGLE coach in the entire league that ALWAYS give up on third and long . ALWAYS . I will be waiting . It is quite the contrary , everybody tries a deep pass on third and long . Unless of course you are pinned at your own 2 and there is a risk for a safety . That is the only situation that you don't try . but mcvay never tries in ANY situation .

[BrooklynRam74]

I first noticed he started "punting" on 3rd and Long in 2020 but I thought that that was a "Jared Goff " thing. Guess not.

The timeout thing. Since he got here. Probably not fixable. He's Mike Martz (in that department)

EXACTLY same thing . I thought he didn't have faith in Goff that is why he was doing it . But it is the same with Staff . It is just the way he is and I HATE IT . Like I said , I want anyone to point me ONE SINGLE coach in the entire league that ALWAYS give up on third and long . ALWAYS . I will be waiting . It is quite the contrary , everybody tries a deep pass on third and long . Unless of course you are pinned at your own 2 and there is a risk for a safety . That is the only situation that you don't try . but mcvay never tries in ANY situation .

And part of my dislike for Goff, which essentially started in the 2020 season is because of the 3rd down punting. I put the blame on Goff for McVay not trusting him. Have to rethink that. Actually, HAVE rethought alot about Goff as he shines in Detroit. Not that I dislike the trade for Staff but I wrongly pegged Goff as a soon to be backup.

Like Hellram says, Cousins and Goff both got better when McVay left them.....

[NorCal RF]

Yeah, because lord knows anytime a coach says "that's on me" or "I need to do better", everyone on message boards accepts that in the spirit in which it was said and never, EVER then makes pissy comments about it.

C'mon, huh? Get real.

Too many of you just like to bitch. You'd bitch if he said what he said...but would also bitch if he said that you claim he *should* have said. Convenient.

What an unhappy existence that must be.

He called a bad game. It happens. We can either move on to the Colts, or all fold our arms, stomp our feet, and threaten to hold our breath over a past event we can't change.

I know which what I'm going with it. I'd encourage you all to join me.

Kickoff is at 1 PM EST.

100% this^…….

Someone made a comment in here a few weeks back that this forum at times has turned into “Housewives of whatever” powered by the same few………

And he wasn’t that far off from the truth. Kind of sad……

[Commish]

I can't believe the last game is still being talked about. I'm assuming a lot of you have played football at least at the pop warner or high school level, or even sports in general. You're taught to move on and get ready for the next game ASAP.

Ummmm, that mindset applies to the coaches and players, not necessarily to the fans.

I'm still annoyed at the Rams' second-half collapse in the 1969 Western Conference playoff game, anytime I happen to reflect back on it...

RAM SEASON!!

--The Commish

[UtahRam]

I’m giving him until Sunday to change his ways or I’m moving to the get rid of McVay crowd.

In case anyone's confused...the quote above is Utah Rams Fan talking this nonsense, not me, UtahRam. Thank you for your patience.

[duanevalle22]

Yeah, because lord knows anytime a coach says "that's on me" or "I need to do better", everyone on message boards accepts that in the spirit in which it was said and never, EVER then makes pissy comments about it.

C'mon, huh? Get real.

Too many of you just like to bitch. You'd bitch if he said what he said...but would also bitch if he said that you claim he *should* have said. Convenient.

What an unhappy existence that must be.

He called a bad game. It happens. We can either move on to the Colts, or all fold our arms, stomp our feet, and threaten to hold our breath over a past event we can't change.

I know which what I'm going with it. I'd encourage you all to join me.

Kickoff is at 1 PM EST.

100% this^…….

Someone made a comment in here a few weeks back that this forum at times has turned into “Housewives of whatever” powered by the same few………

And he wasn’t that far off from the truth. Kind of sad……

LOL

I didn't think this place would be that bitchy either.... lol.... But to be perfectly honest, I'm pretty used to people complaining and bitching about everything these days.... We definitely live in a country of cry babies and "I'm the victim" mentality over the last 15 years. .... so un-rock-n-roll these days for sure.

[DelMar]

I’m giving him until Sunday to change his ways or I’m moving to the get rid of McVay crowd.

In case anyone's confused...the quote above is Utah Rams Fan talking this nonsense, not me, UtahRam. Thank you for your patience.

The battle over UTAH rolls on....



Damn... I love you guys.

[NorCal RF]

100% this^…….

Someone made a comment in here a few weeks back that this forum at times has turned into “Housewives of whatever” powered by the same few………

And he wasn’t that far off from the truth. Kind of sad……

LOL

I didn't think this place would be that bitchy either.... lol.... But to be perfectly honest, I pretty used to people complaining and bitching about everything these days.... We definitely live in a country of cry babies and "I'm the victim" mentality over the last 15 years. .... so un-rock-n-roll these days for sure.

Just speaking in here only it wasn’t at one time. Or at least not as much IMO………

[Yorkshire Ram]

This thread is sort of evolving back into the other one now.

There's absolutely no doubt (whatever your long term view of him) that McVay needs to call a clean game on Sunday.

The views on this forum seem to be mirrored nationally to a degree, for example I've never seen Rams Wire get on him so heavily.

He needs to restore confidence in quite a few it seems. He does seem to be on a short leash with the media after last year.

Not my opinion but I can definitely see it building.

[malibu]

I’m giving him until Sunday to change his ways or I’m moving to the get rid of McVay crowd.

Hate to say it just another stupid post! If we had more horses (better and more seasoned) players we would be better equipped to win these games. We had bad luck with the tipped int. Jackson missed on a block on an inside rush by Henderson causing Stafford to roll to his left and he threw a pick. That was on Jackson and on Stafford the wr was completely blanked throw it away to live another day not on McVay. The 2 injuries really hurt us - that's not on MxVay. Lets see how Indy fairs with their LT and starting center out I imagine not great.

Everyone knew this was going to be most likely a down year. Yes to be fair I thought some of McVays calls were somewhat suspect, but most games are won/lost by 3-7 pts there are no gimmes. A couple different things happen and we win that game. Indy was desperate and at home and a great team look at their track record they just don't get the hype of Philly, Dallas, Buff, KC and now Miami.

[NorCal RF]

I’m giving him until Sunday to change his ways or I’m moving to the get rid of McVay crowd.

Signed through 2026 correct?………

At $14m per correct?……..

That is $42m still owed to him after this season correct?………

Doesn’t matter what you “move” or this “crowd” you refer to. He isn't going anywhere…….

Back to real topics………

[BrooklynRam74]

I can't believe the last game is still being talked about. I'm assuming a lot of you have played football at least at the pop warner or high school level, or even sports in general. You're taught to move on and get ready for the next game ASAP.

Ummmm, that mindset applies to the coaches and players, not necessarily to the fans.

I'm still annoyed at the Rams' second-half collapse in the 1969 Western Conference playoff game, anytime I happen to reflect back on it...

RAM SEASON!!

--The Commish

People pooh-pooh that, but THAT team should have been in Super Bowl 4 against the Chiefs. Got screwed by the archaic Home Field Advantage rules of the day. Started 11-0 and had the MVP, Roman.

[DelMar]

I’m giving him until Sunday to change his ways or I’m moving to the get rid of McVay crowd.

Signed through 2026 correct?………

At $14m per correct?……..

That is $42m still owed to him after this season correct?………

Doesn’t matter what you “move” or this “crowd” you refer to. He isn't going anywhere…….

Back to real topics………

Hmmmm, well coaches don’t count against the cap as you know, NC. We have a fabulously, wealthy owner.

So I believe argument shouldn’t be how much he is still owed, as imo it’s more about if Sean and Snead have a falling out imo. Which I think could be possible if Sean keeps callings games like the MNF debacle.

Anyways, Dumoff would be my first choice to fire anyways. Because he has horrible taste in uniforms and made us look stupid.

[D-GenerationX]

I first noticed he started "punting" on 3rd and Long in 2020 but I thought that that was a "Jared Goff " thing. Guess not.

Yeah, same. I attributed that to no faith in Jared.