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4 leads given up in all 4 losses.

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Ok I think you should say we should win minimum of 2 of those games but seriously all 4. Sorry that is a disaster.

And it's what mcvay and Morris own right now and no excuses about our team or prior expectations this is a good team that shouldn't lose all 4 games they've had leads in.
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ADonaldBeast wrote: October 22nd, 2023, 7:22 pm Ok I think at you should say we should win minimum of 2 of those games but seriously all 4. Sorry that is a disaster.

And it's what mcvay and Morris own right now and no excuses about our team or prior expectations this is a good team that shouldn't lose all 4 games they've had leads in.
It’s a bunch of young players still learning how to play 4 qtrs in the NFL.
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Tyler Higbee dropping a critical pass stafford throwing an interception at the beginning of the second half maher missing two field goals and an extra point and McVay blowing time out, killing a potential challenge.

I don't see any rookie excuses there.
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ADonaldBeast wrote: October 22nd, 2023, 7:22 pm Ok I think you should say we should win minimum of 2 of those games but seriously all 4. Sorry that is a disaster.

And it's what mcvay and Morris own right now and no excuses about our team or prior expectations this is a good team that shouldn't lose all 4 games they've had leads in.
We are not a good team..we had a good draft..we have some good veterans..some good looking rookies..but we are average at best..but we are an inexperienced team that can't put 4 quarters together in a single game let alone in all 3 phases period.
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When it comes to second-half football, the Los Angeles Rams and Atlanta Falcons were on opposite ends of the spectrum in 2020. The Rams allowed the second-fewest points after halftime, surrendering an average of just 7.2 points per game. The Falcons were third-worst, giving up 15.4 points per game in the second half.

Neither team was great offensively in the second half of games last season, but when the Rams had a lead going into halftime, they never lost it. In fact, the Rams have never blown a lead at halftime in four years under McVay.

The same can’t be said about the Falcons under Raheem Morris, who’s now the Rams’ defensive coordinator.

Last season, no team in the NFL blew more halftime leads than the Falcons, who lost five games in which they led by at least one point after the first two quarters. That was tied with the Bengals and Chargers for the most in the league.

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Utah Rams Fan wrote: October 22nd, 2023, 7:24 pm
ADonaldBeast wrote: October 22nd, 2023, 7:22 pm Ok I think at you should say we should win minimum of 2 of those games but seriously all 4. Sorry that is a disaster.

And it's what mcvay and Morris own right now and no excuses about our team or prior expectations this is a good team that shouldn't lose all 4 games they've had leads in.
It’s a bunch of young players still learning how to play 4 qtrs in the NFL.
It’s maddening to me how they can play pretty good football for a prolonged period, then at the most crucial time just absolutely collapse. Last minutes of the half or game, suddenly the opposing quarterback is the second coming of Joe Montana or Tom Brady.

Young players or not, if they can play well for most of a half, they should be able to lock it down on that last crucial drive.
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ADonaldBeast wrote: October 22nd, 2023, 7:30 pm Tyler Higbee dropping a critical pass stafford throwing an interception at the beginning of the second half maher missing two field goals and an extra point and McVay blowing time out, killing a potential challenge.

I don't see any rookie excuses there.
you don't see because there is nothing to see. Regarding the offense the rookies are balling ( nakua / Avilla ) and some vets are playing like shit ( Maher , Staff etc ) .
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Glacierjohn wrote: October 22nd, 2023, 9:25 pm
Utah Rams Fan wrote: October 22nd, 2023, 7:24 pm

It’s a bunch of young players still learning how to play 4 qtrs in the NFL.
It’s maddening to me how they can play pretty good football for a prolonged period, then at the most crucial time just absolutely collapse. Last minutes of the half or game, suddenly the opposing quarterback is the second coming of Joe Montana or Tom Brady.

Young players or not, if they can play well for most of a half, they should be able to lock it down on that last crucial drive.
That's nonsense. One does not necessarily follow the other. It's the real world. There is no algorithm that equates to that. One slip, one misread, one step in the wrong direction, a millisecond late reaching to tip a pass// a hesitation hitting the hole, double clutching on a pass, throwing a half second late into a tight window.

The Rams are not a good team. They also have a lot of young players still learning at this level and a lot of vets who are here cause they are cheap. Shit happens sand it happens more often to bad teams.

Our OL is better than last year, but I still wouldn't call it good. We lost our RB and were so good we had to bring a guy we cut last year and no one else signed back and hand him 18 carries, rather than use the rookie we drafted. Our DL is basically 2 guys, Our LB's are roughly 2 1/2, We have 1 CB performing at any sort of passable level, our S are better, but not great. Our punter is ghood, our coverage is not. Our kicker needs Febreeze to spray the field when he leaves. Our WR's are relatively solid, TE's not so much and our QB has one of the worst percentages in the league and for some reason there's a question as to why we blow leads. Seems pretty clear to me
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GoldenRam wrote: October 23rd, 2023, 12:30 am
Glacierjohn wrote: October 22nd, 2023, 9:25 pm

It’s maddening to me how they can play pretty good football for a prolonged period, then at the most crucial time just absolutely collapse. Last minutes of the half or game, suddenly the opposing quarterback is the second coming of Joe Montana or Tom Brady.

Young players or not, if they can play well for most of a half, they should be able to lock it down on that last crucial drive.
That's nonsense. One does not necessarily follow the other. It's the real world. There is no algorithm that equates to that. One slip, one misread, one step in the wrong direction, a millisecond late reaching to tip a pass// a hesitation hitting the hole, double clutching on a pass, throwing a half second late into a tight window.

The Rams are not a good team. They also have a lot of young players still learning at this level and a lot of vets who are here cause they are cheap. Shit happens sand it happens more often to bad teams.

Our OL is better than last year, but I still wouldn't call it good. We lost our RB and were so good we had to bring a guy we cut last year and no one else signed back and hand him 18 carries, rather than use the rookie we drafted. Our DL is basically 2 guys, Our LB's are roughly 2 1/2, We have 1 CB performing at any sort of passable level, our S are better, but not great. Our punter is ghood, our coverage is not. Our kicker needs Febreeze to spray the field when he leaves. Our WR's are relatively solid, TE's not so much and our QB has one of the worst percentages in the league and for some reason there's a question as to why we blow leads. Seems pretty clear to me
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They’re not deep or talented enough to play 4 quarters. Most of their games they’re good for 2 quarters.
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Yeah....there's a lot to fix. #9 was not good yesterday. DBs were terrible. So many "close" games...which is true. But this league is close to parity, and you have to play clean all 4 quarters. You're as good as your record.

If we were a playoff team/good team...you would know, because we would be winning games. Especially close ones. There's a lot to add/fix for next year to be more consistent at least.
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RAMFAN71 wrote: October 23rd, 2023, 8:15 am Yeah....there's a lot to fix. #9 was not good yesterday. DBs were terrible. So many "close" games...which is true. But this league is close to parity, and you have to play clean all 4 quarters. You're as good as your record.

If we were a playoff team/good team...you would know, because we would be winning games. Especially close ones. There's a lot to add/fix for next year to be more consistent at least.
The perplexing question is why wasn't he good. I saw what you saw and overall I agree.

Is it the OL collapsing mentally taking him out of his rhythm?

Was it the plays called?

His completion percentage was 61% which is near the bottom of all QBs which tells me he is missing an inordinate amount of throws this year.

To me I equate Stafford to playing golf. You all remember going out on the course and you suck but you hit that one perfect drive, iron or long putt and you forget all the shankers. Stafford throws a dime to Nacua or Kupp and we are saying how great he is and we forget all the overthrows, bad ints, momentum changers by his decision making.

This loss yesterday wasn't on him completely but he sure had a hand in it along with McVays stuborness to not go more max protect, Maher, Kendricks, no timeouts left at the end of the game and the Morris defensive collapse in the 4th quarter. A poster said Pittsburg had like 108 yards total going into the 4th quarter and in the 4th alone got 190 yards to me that spells really bad defense.
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malibu wrote: October 23rd, 2023, 8:30 am
RAMFAN71 wrote: October 23rd, 2023, 8:15 am Yeah....there's a lot to fix. #9 was not good yesterday. DBs were terrible. So many "close" games...which is true. But this league is close to parity, and you have to play clean all 4 quarters. You're as good as your record.

If we were a playoff team/good team...you would know, because we would be winning games. Especially close ones. There's a lot to add/fix for next year to be more consistent at least.
The perplexing question is why wasn't he good. I saw what you saw and overall I agree.

Is it the OL collapsing mentally taking him out of his rhythm?

Was it the plays called?

His completion percentage was 61% which is near the bottom of all QBs which tells me he is missing an inordinate amount of throws this year.

To me I equate Stafford to playing golf. You all remember going out on the course and you suck but you hit that one perfect drive, iron or long putt and you forget all the shankers. Stafford throws a dime to Nacua or Kupp and we are saying how great he is and we forget all the overthrows, bad ints, momentum changers by his decision making.

This loss yesterday wasn't on him completely but he sure had a hand in it along with McVays stuborness to not go more max protect, Maher, Kendricks, no timeouts left at the end of the game and the Morris defensive collapse in the 4th quarter. A poster said Pittsburg had like 108 yards total going into the 4th quarter and in the 4th alone got 190 yards to me that spells really bad defense.
Oh- I agree with what you are saying here. I put this loss squarely on the offense. DB's were bad, but we didn't score. And we had the pick which is not on our D. So Stafford/McVay were the problem. OL was not great...but not to be 100% blamed. McVay ran the ball, but the spots he chose to do so were just strange to me. I think we could have run more because we are actually not a bad run team. And I think McVay would hate to admit that. He wants Stafford to win games, not a RB committee. I think we need to trust the run more on early downs and CERTAINLY on 3rd and short. And he needs to really re-work the WR routes to play more into what his OL can and can't do. Things just seem to take too long to develop.
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SoCalRam78 wrote: October 23rd, 2023, 7:44 am They’re not deep or talented enough to play 4 quarters. Most of their games they’re good for 2 quarters.
Why? If they’re good enough for two quarters, why not four?
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Glacierjohn wrote: October 23rd, 2023, 2:47 pm
SoCalRam78 wrote: October 23rd, 2023, 7:44 am They’re not deep or talented enough to play 4 quarters. Most of their games they’re good for 2 quarters.
Why? If they’re good enough for two quarters, why not four?
Because other teams adjust and we don’t. Then we have the Kendrick factor. The blown coverages and stupid penalties.
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GlendoraRam wrote: October 23rd, 2023, 2:53 pm
Glacierjohn wrote: October 23rd, 2023, 2:47 pm

Why? If they’re good enough for two quarters, why not four?
Because other teams adjust and we don’t. Then we have the Kendrick factor. The blown coverages and stupid penalties.
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Being up by 3, 7 or even 10 isn't a big lead in the NFL. Lead changes happen all the time in the NFL.
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Glacierjohn wrote: October 23rd, 2023, 2:47 pm
SoCalRam78 wrote: October 23rd, 2023, 7:44 am They’re not deep or talented enough to play 4 quarters. Most of their games they’re good for 2 quarters.
Why? If they’re good enough for two quarters, why not four?
For the same reason why most picked the rams to battle it out for the overall pick. Talent isn't deep, no depth especially on the DL or OL.
I don't get why the surprise, many here and in tbe media had the rams winning around 3 to 6 games bc they lacked talent.
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GlendoraRam wrote: October 23rd, 2023, 2:53 pm
Glacierjohn wrote: October 23rd, 2023, 2:47 pm

Why? If they’re good enough for two quarters, why not four?
Because other teams adjust and we don’t. Then we have the Kendrick factor. The blown coverages and stupid penalties.
That’s it exactly! Nailed it!
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