Stafford… is he declining?

[brasilrams]

Just tossing this out there. From my perspective, he is very slow to get to the LOS, seems to hold the ball way too long, locks on to receivers, always looking for the deep throw instead of mixing it up and as a result, taking too many sacks. Lots of over throws, and turnovers.

The offensive line is definitely playing better this year, you can see that in the run game but on passing downs, they can only hold their blocks for so long.

Seems Stafford doesn’t feel comfortable at all.

Give me your thoughts, even if you feel I am way off base.

[brasilrams]

https://www.laramsfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=59221

[GlendoraRam]

So, do we draft a QB next year even if we have to trade up?

[brasilrams]

So, do we draft a QB next year even if we have to trade up?

I think so , we trade up and draft a QB . I don't see another option. There aren't make Qbs available so we can't go the same route we went with stafford ( picks + player for a proven vet ) .

Staff is looking like Matt Ryan 2.0 . I agree with everything you just said , as I posted on that thread showing his stats for this season . They are atrocious . The article I posted at the end is also a great article .

[HellRam]

Declining? Possible....but he looked as good as ever week 1.

2021 was peak Stafford. I've always stated QB production fluctuates. You have to look at the whole picture and not just assume the highs will always be there. When Goff was here many assumed his lows would be his constant and ignored his highs.

Now regarding Stafford, I think considering our talent level at reciever and improved oline play this year. He'd be producing at a higher level. I know I expected more from him and this offense as a whole. I think McVay deserves just as much blame if not more for a array of reasons....play calling at times, he should be giving Stafford more outlets passes and Stafford needs to do a better job of taking what the D gives him and not press. There's a lot wrong with the offense that's not Matt's fault. However, he has left a few plays on the field this year. His accuracy historically has been good but at times inconsistent. This year the inconsistencies have showed up more then we'd like. And that is a problem. Though, Matt can be streaky and catch fire again at anytime.

I'm not ready to say he's declining though at age 35 it is going to start happening. We'll see how the year ends. I'm not ready to jump to a conclusion.

[brasilrams]

Declining? Possible....but he looked as good as ever week 1.

2021 was peak Stafford. I've always stated QB production fluctuates. You have to look at the whole picture and not just assume the highs will always be there. When Goff was here many assumed his lows would be his constant and ignored his highs.

Now regarding Stafford, I think considering our talent level at reciever and improved oline play this year. He'd be producing at a higher level. I know I expected more from him and this offense as a whole. I think McVay deserves just as much blame if not more for a array of reasons....play calling at times, he should be giving Stafford more outlets passes and Stafford needs to do a better job of taking what the D gives him and not press. There's a lot wrong with the offense that's not Matt's fault. However, he has left a few plays on the field this year. His accuracy historically has been good but at times inconsistent. This year the inconsistencies have showed up more then we'd like. And that is a problem. Though, Matt can be streaky and catch fire again at anytime.

I'm not ready to say he's declining though at age 35 it is going to start happening. We'll see how the year ends. I'm not ready to jump to a conclusion.

I am willing to give him this year , like you said he can be streaky and catch fire but it is concerning that he has been playing bad for 6 weeks now . Let's not forget last season that he was also playing pretty bad before he got hurt . HE is now 6-10 in his last 16 games here .

This season he ranks 30th in completion % and this is extremely concerning imo . I am not going to be as fast as I was with goff when I was asking for his head , I am going to try to be a little more patient as , I do agree mcvay can improve with scheme and play calling and that should also help staff . But.... it is not looking good ...... This article makes a very good case against staff :
https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2023/10/2 ... lame-mcvay

[GlendoraRam]

With a cap hit of 50mil in 2024, I can’t see the Rams eating that. So, from my perspective, unless he retires, he will be with us at least until the end of 2024.
Hopefully, we draft a quality QB next April and hit sits a year while learning the nuances of playing in the NFL.

[HellRam]

Barring a completely collapse Matt will be our starter next year. This offense just needs to start living up to the billing and reputation they have.

[brasilrams]

Barring a completely collapse Matt will be our starter next year. This offense just needs to start living up to the billing and reputation they have.

That is up to him improve , him AND mcvay of course.

[Safety Blitz]

Yes.

[DelMar]

Declining? Possible....but he looked as good as ever week 1.

2021 was peak Stafford. I've always stated QB production fluctuates. You have to look at the whole picture and not just assume the highs will always be there. When Goff was here many assumed his lows would be his constant and ignored his highs.

Now regarding Stafford, I think considering our talent level at reciever and improved oline play this year. He'd be producing at a higher level. I know I expected more from him and this offense as a whole. I think McVay deserves just as much blame if not more for a array of reasons....play calling at times, he should be giving Stafford more outlets passes and Stafford needs to do a better job of taking what the D gives him and not press. There's a lot wrong with the offense that's not Matt's fault. However, he has left a few plays on the field this year. His accuracy historically has been good but at times inconsistent. This year the inconsistencies have showed up more then we'd like. And that is a problem. Though, Matt can be streaky and catch fire again at anytime.

I'm not ready to say he's declining though at age 35 it is going to start happening. We'll see how the year ends. I'm not ready to jump to a conclusion.

Glad you stated he looked amazing week 1.

I’ve been thinking that all season. I mean WTH happened from week one to where we are today.

[Jacksnow]

The issue that stands out to me are the broken routes and passes to an empty field? This has happened in last two games. And what follows is Stafford anger/frustration.

[Cornell29]

Could be the fact he has a injured hip.

He started the season on fire, and injured his hip during the Colts game.

[brasilrams]

Could be the fact he has a injured hip.

He started the season on fire, and injured his hip during the Colts game.

He seemed fine running for that third down conversion . I am sick and tired of highbee drops , costed us a TD last game and now we had to settle for a 51 yard FG that we missed and gave the steelers short field . I have no idea wtf did they resign him . Watching the game yesterday I could see what a REAL TE does to the offense . Both Kittle and HOCKENSON were incredible . WE need a real TE . But I am guessing mcvay is happy with highbee or else would not have resigned him .

[brasilrams]

Could be the fact he has a injured hip.

He started the season on fire, and injured his hip during the Colts game.

He seemed fine running for that third down conversion . I am sick and tired of highbee drops , costed us a TD last game and now we had to settle for a 51 yard FG that we missed and gave the steelers short field . I have no idea wtf did they resign him . Watching the game yesterday I could see what a REAL TE does to the offense . Both Kittle and HOCKENSON were incredible . WE need a real TE . But I am guessing mcvay is happy with highbee or else would not have resigned him .

[Cornell29]

I didn't pay much attention to it, but Stafford hip could be a problem. You can grunt out a run but when it comes to being a accurate passer, you need to have your technique down. Any little thing can throw it off.

[Cornell29]

[49RH8R]

No.

He had a 107.3 rating just last week against the Cardinals and had another clutch game-winning drive against the Colts. And yeah, he lit up the Seahawks week 1.

McVay needs to keep the offense balanced and not get too pass happy like he has a tendency to do.

What happened to the play action?

[Cornell29]

No.

He had a 107.3 rating just last week against the Cardinals and had another clutch game-winning drive against the Colts. And yeah, he lit up the Seahawks week 1.

McVay needs to keep the offense balanced and not get too pass happy like he has a tendency to do.

What happened to the play action?

Mcvay wasn't pass happy against the Steelers. Play action is most effective from under Center which Stafford doesn't care for

[DelMar]

I didn't pay much attention to it, but Stafford hip could be a problem. You can grunt out a run but when it comes to being a accurate passer, you need to have your technique down. Any little thing can throw it off.

This to me makes complete sense.

Good find C29, as always. I take it this week is testing the systems again?

[Cornell29]

I didn't pay much attention to it, but Stafford hip could be a problem. You can grunt out a run but when it comes to being a accurate passer, you need to have your technique down. Any little thing can throw it off.

This to me makes complete sense.

Good find C29, as always. I take it this week is testing the systems again?

Yup

Unfortunately next week and as early as this Thursday is implementation

[DelMar]

This to me makes complete sense.

Good find C29, as always. I take it this week is testing the systems again?

Yup

Unfortunately next week and as early as this Thursday is implementation

Ok good... I'll be looking for any and all Rams twitter updates.

[brasilrams]

I can't see your tweets anymore bro . NOt sure why , using google chrome on my macbook.

[brasilrams]

I can't see your tweets anymore bro . NOt sure why , using google chrome on my macbook.

As far as tweets go, it isn’t our forum, it is Twitter (x.com)

I have made some changes to fix. It is still a bit inconsistent.
On embedded tweets, Twitter.com still works x.com doesn’t.

[DelMar]

I can't see your tweets anymore bro . NOt sure why , using google chrome on my macbook.

I had same issue because I do not have a twitter account... you need to clear your search history snd cache I think.

For you, it could be a virus from all your adult theme'd gay searches?

JK

But, clear your history and cache. Worked for me

[brasilrams]

I can't see your tweets anymore bro . NOt sure why , using google chrome on my macbook.

I had same issue because I do not have a twitter account... you need to clear your search history snd cache I think.

For you, it could be a virus from all your adult theme'd gay searches?

JK

But, clear your history and cache. Worked for me

I only search " one lucky guy and 2 milfs " type of stuff bro , sorry . LOL

I will clear the cache

[Cornell29]

[Cornell29]

[KBLOCK]

Just tossing this out there. From my perspective, he is very slow to get to the LOS, seems to hold the ball way too long, locks on to receivers, always looking for the deep throw instead of mixing it up and as a result, taking too many sacks. Lots of over throws, and turnovers.

The offensive line is definitely playing better this year, you can see that in the run game but on passing downs, they can only hold their blocks for so long.

Seems Stafford doesn’t feel comfortable at all.

Give me your thoughts, even if you feel I am way off base.

It's his decision making. Digressed from the beginning of season. He looked good earlier. I think it is in his head. Hearing footsteps from pass rush. Not being strong in pocket.

[DelMar]

Just tossing this out there. From my perspective, he is very slow to get to the LOS, seems to hold the ball way too long, locks on to receivers, always looking for the deep throw instead of mixing it up and as a result, taking too many sacks. Lots of over throws, and turnovers.

The offensive line is definitely playing better this year, you can see that in the run game but on passing downs, they can only hold their blocks for so long.

Seems Stafford doesn’t feel comfortable at all.

Give me your thoughts, even if you feel I am way off base.

It's his decision making. Digressed from the beginning of season. He looked good earlier. I think it is in his head. Hearing footsteps from pass rush. Not being strong in pocket.

And this is EXACTLY why LT is prob the single most important Offensive position on the field next to QB.

I truly hope if we do keep Stafford for 2024 and beyond... that our #1 pick is a LT... We need our NEW Pace, Slater, Whit...

And the crazy part, there are maybe 4 GOOD LT's that come out of college a year. That is how hard this spot is to fill where the player is very good at.