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Here's a guy suffering from mental illness so obvious that he's sent by his military associates to a mental health clinic. He was an in patient for two weeks and confessed there to hearing voices telling him to kill people. No problem say the mental health staff. They release him and weeks later he goes postal. No red flag laws or background checks made it easy for this I'll person to go crazy by killing so many


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Safety Blitz wrote: October 26th, 2023, 12:53 pm Here's a guy suffering from mental illness so obvious that he's sent by his military associates to a mental health clinic. He was an in patient for two weeks and confessed there to hearing voices telling him to kill people. No problem say the mental health staff. They release him and weeks later he goes postal. No red flag laws or background checks made it easy for this I'll person to go crazy by killing so many


Frig the NRA and their political blow job lackeys in Congress.
This is nonsense. Let me set you straight. As a part of my outreach, I regularly correspond with death row inmates. Every single one I have ever written or talked to has serious mental health issues. That doesn’t make them any less dangerous not does it diminish their personal responsibility. People with serious mental health issues that renders them dangerous should be incarcerated.
Period.

We have heard about someone (especially recently) commit horrible acts of violence.
Many times, these people had been released after committing violent felonies, many times these criminals were cuddled after being label with experiencing a “mental health crisis”… well, no shit! Anyone who does this kind of violence is mentally ill.

I am not a huge gun guy. In fact, I despise the entire gun culture as it relates to one’s manhood. I do believe everyone has a right to defend themselves even with deadly force when appropriate. That right is NOT granted by the government. It is a fundamental right every human being has.
I am huge on personal responsibility and ending the endless political bullshit. Blame the left, blame the right… blame the NRA… whatever… the cities/states with the most restrictive gun laws also have the most violent crime. So based on the results, more restrictive gun laws simply don’t work. Until and unless the current laws on the books are vigorously enforced, it is idiotic to pass more laws that won’t be enforced anyhow.
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Fact remains that a psychotic person hearing voices telling him to kill people is let back into society with no laws making sure he doesn't have access to weapons. This tragedy could have been prevented. The mental health clinic that released him hadn't responded to reporters who have good questions to ask.
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Safety Blitz wrote: October 26th, 2023, 12:53 pm Here's a guy suffering from mental illness so obvious that he's sent by his military associates to a mental health clinic. He was an in patient for two weeks and confessed there to hearing voices telling him to kill people. No problem say the mental health staff. They release him and weeks later he goes postal. No red flag laws or background checks made it easy for this I'll person to go crazy by killing so many


Frig the NRA and their political blow job lackeys in Congress.
Man, you are ignorant. Typical liberal jumping to conclusions and blaming mental health facilities, Congress and the NRA. All you missed was 'This is TRUMPS FAULT'.

You are a funny guy. You speak like you were there and have all the facts. Blitz, you dont know what happened, so maybe just wait for all the facts to come out.

This guy lost his head, absolutely. But, let's wait and see what really happened. There is always much more to these tragedies.
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Safety Blitz wrote: October 26th, 2023, 2:37 pm Fact remains that a psychotic person hearing voices telling him to kill people is let back into society with no laws making sure he doesn't have access to weapons. This tragedy could have been prevented. The mental health clinic that released him hadn't responded to reporters who have good questions to ask.
stick to ram talk because it is quite obvious you aren't an adult who can talk with the big boys. your continued opinions are so beyond uninformed and ignorant they make you look like a buffoon....btw that is hard to do since your work over the years....well I think you know where I am going with this
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I agree with Safety on this one. Some people with severe mental illness shouldn't be aloud among the general population. This is a textbook example of ignoring a disturbed individual. If someones says they hear voices to "kill" people. A threat like that should be taken more seriously.

Edit: I disagree with "frig" the NRA. That has nothing to do with mental illness.
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HellRam wrote: October 26th, 2023, 3:56 pm I agree with Safety on this one. Some people with severe mental illness shouldn't be aloud among the general population. This is a textbook example of ignoring a disturbed individual. If someones says they hear voices to "kill" people. A threat like that should be taken more seriously.

Edit: I disagree with "frig" the NRA. That has nothing to do with mental illness.

Again, how do you know all this Hell? This is all hearsay, and we DO NOT have all the actual facts. How do you know what went on and what this guy hid and didnt tell others about, from social media or the press? LOL. Come on, you're better than that. I know you and you are not a dumb person.

The one thing that I do look at and where the ball dropped MAYBE, is IF and only IF he was telling people he's hearing voices or whatever, and he did go to the physche ward... ALL weapons should have been taken immediately. But none the less, this guy Im sure had some that weren't registered and most likely still would have happened. If he did, I do not think the proper people were told about his condition. So if true, someone dropped the ball.

But, WE DO NOT know all the facts. I do however love how you always agree w the minority. It's what you have always done. But again, we just dont know all the facts... and I figured you would stand back and say 'Lets see how this all unfolded, and where the ball was dropped'. But to agree w the board nut job w out all the facts... Come on now

Hmmm
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DelMar wrote: October 26th, 2023, 5:07 pm
HellRam wrote: October 26th, 2023, 3:56 pm I agree with Safety on this one. Some people with severe mental illness shouldn't be aloud among the general population. This is a textbook example of ignoring a disturbed individual. If someones says they hear voices to "kill" people. A threat like that should be taken more seriously.

Edit: I disagree with "frig" the NRA. That has nothing to do with mental illness.

Again, how do you know all this Hell? This is all hearsay, and we DO NOT have all the actual facts. How do you know what went on and what this guy hid and didnt tell others about, from social media or the press? LOL. Come on, you're better than that. I know you and you are not a dumb person.

The one thing that I do look at and where the ball dropped MAYBE, is IF and only IF he was telling people he's hearing voices or whatever, and he did go to the physche ward... ALL weapons should have been taken immediately. But none the less, this guy Im sure had some that weren't registered and most likely still would have happened. If he did, I do not think the proper people were told about his condition. So if true, someone dropped the ball.

But, WE DO NOT know all the facts. I do however love how you always agree w the minority. It's what you have always done. But again, we just dont know all the facts... and I figured you would stand back and say 'Lets see how this all unfolded, and where the ball was dropped'. But to agree w the board nut job w out all the facts... Come on now

Hmmm
But that's whats been reported even by high ranking officials. You can speculate everything under the sun, technically.

Whats facts or being reported as such is he was put into a mental hospital and he himself wanted to do mass shootings. And he did such.

Do we really need to over complicate everything in todays world?
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HellRam wrote: October 26th, 2023, 5:59 pm
DelMar wrote: October 26th, 2023, 5:07 pm


Again, how do you know all this Hell? This is all hearsay, and we DO NOT have all the actual facts. How do you know what went on and what this guy hid and didnt tell others about, from social media or the press? LOL. Come on, you're better than that. I know you and you are not a dumb person.

The one thing that I do look at and where the ball dropped MAYBE, is IF and only IF he was telling people he's hearing voices or whatever, and he did go to the physche ward... ALL weapons should have been taken immediately. But none the less, this guy Im sure had some that weren't registered and most likely still would have happened. If he did, I do not think the proper people were told about his condition. So if true, someone dropped the ball.

But, WE DO NOT know all the facts. I do however love how you always agree w the minority. It's what you have always done. But again, we just dont know all the facts... and I figured you would stand back and say 'Lets see how this all unfolded, and where the ball was dropped'. But to agree w the board nut job w out all the facts... Come on now

Hmmm
But that's whats been reported even by high ranking officials. You can speculate everything under the sun, technically.

Whats facts or being reported as such is he was put into a mental hospital and he himself wanted to do mass shootings. And he did such.

Do we really need to over complicate everything in todays world?
If it’s a fact that he said those things in an actual mental ward and or on social media or anywhere… then like I said, all his weapons shoot have been taken.

My point is, let the facts play out and see what really happened.

Nothing is over complicated here. It’s getting the actual facts in what happened.
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DelMar wrote: October 26th, 2023, 6:31 pm
HellRam wrote: October 26th, 2023, 5:59 pm

But that's whats been reported even by high ranking officials. You can speculate everything under the sun, technically.

Whats facts or being reported as such is he was put into a mental hospital and he himself wanted to do mass shootings. And he did such.

Do we really need to over complicate everything in todays world?
If it’s a fact that he said those things in an actual mental ward and or on social media or anywhere… then like I said, all his weapons shoot have been taken.

My point is, let the facts play out and see what really happened.

Nothing is over complicated here. It’s getting the actual facts in what happened.
I can only go by whats been reported. Nothing more. So I base my opinion on such.

And I think more then his weapons being taken away. He should have been locked up till he was in a better mental state. However long that may have been.
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Safety Blitz wrote: October 26th, 2023, 12:53 pm Here's a guy suffering from mental illness so obvious that he's sent by his military associates to a mental health clinic. He was an in patient for two weeks and confessed there to hearing voices telling him to kill people. No problem say the mental health staff. They release him and weeks later he goes postal. No red flag laws or background checks made it easy for this I'll person to go crazy by killing so many


Frig the NRA and their political blow job lackeys in Congress.
No background checks? And you know this how..any person committed to a mental institution is ABSOLUTELY PROHIBITED FROM OWNING FIREARMS! How bout the FBI and our government do its job and actually enforce its NICS background checks and make sure that people don't slip through the cracks like this mental POS or even stopping Hunter Biden from illegally purchasing a handgun..they don't do everything in their power or due diligence on people who are trying to purchase a gun..but aren't allowed to own guns because they have criminal history..drug abuse..mental health problems. There are laws and systems in place..we need to fix and strengthen our systems and processes.
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Henry VIII wrote: October 26th, 2023, 10:03 pm
Safety Blitz wrote: October 26th, 2023, 12:53 pm Here's a guy suffering from mental illness so obvious that he's sent by his military associates to a mental health clinic. He was an in patient for two weeks and confessed there to hearing voices telling him to kill people. No problem say the mental health staff. They release him and weeks later he goes postal. No red flag laws or background checks made it easy for this I'll person to go crazy by killing so many


Frig the NRA and their political blow job lackeys in Congress.
No background checks? And you know this how..any person committed to a mental institution is ABSOLUTELY PROHIBITED FROM OWNING FIREARMS! How bout the FBI and our government do its job and actually enforce its NICS background checks and make sure that people don't slip through the cracks like this mental POS or even stopping Hunter Biden from illegally purchasing a handgun..they don't do everything in their power or due diligence on people who are trying to purchase a gun..but aren't allowed to own guns because they have criminal history..drug abuse..mental health problems. There are laws and systems in place..we need to fix and strengthen our systems and processes.
Come on Henry, it's all the Republicans and especially Trumps fault. You know this.
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You kind of made sense until your point… numb nuts
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Republicans love Ar 15s....won't even pass background checks. Republicans are evil and dangerous.
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Safety Blitz wrote: October 27th, 2023, 10:01 am Republicans love Ar 15s....won't even pass background checks. Republicans are evil and dangerous.
another intelligent comment by SB. at least you are consistent
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Safety Blitz wrote: October 27th, 2023, 10:01 am Republicans love Ar 15s....won't even pass background checks. Republicans are evil and dangerous.
Wow, so true. I mean we are totally ok murdering babies. Which I do believe that abortions have killed more human beings than guns in the history of man.

We also believe in big government where we they tell us what to buy, where to live, basically almost total control. Which isn’t dangerous at all.

We also believe in making our kids read about gay sex in 2th grade, because there is nothing dangerous about that either.

Want me to keep going?

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Evil never recognized itself as such...
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Safety Blitz wrote: October 27th, 2023, 11:56 am Evil never recognized itself as such...
Correct.

If it did the Democrat party would cease to exist. We agree again my man.
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Safety Blitz wrote: October 26th, 2023, 12:53 pm Here's a guy suffering from mental illness so obvious that he's sent by his military associates to a mental health clinic. He was an in patient for two weeks and confessed there to hearing voices telling him to kill people. No problem say the mental health staff. They release him and weeks later he goes postal. No red flag laws or background checks made it easy for this I'll person to go crazy by killing so many


Frig the NRA and their political blow job lackeys in Congress.
In your uneducated tour .. check out Washington DC. You know, the place where the Government lives. The place RUN by Democrats it's entire existence. Some of, if the the most, restrictive gun laws in the nation. The place where gun crime is RISING as it FALLS nationwide.
Then wander on out to Chicago, another city with extremely tough gun laws, and check out the gun violence there

Gun crime is generally lower in states/counties/cities where people are allowed to have guns. A good part of the reason for that is quite simple, when virtually ANYONE is likely to be armed, people mostly think twice about using one

People like yourself are the ones that make it unsafe. You'll stop a PEACEFUL protest on the other side of your political view, with your abject moronically skewed morality, then let those who you feel are your kindred spirits burn areas to the ground, rape, murder and assault with impunity, then claiming it's the fault of the victims

People may die as a result of a gun, but a gun is an inanimate object. It can do nothing on it's own. It requires a person to operate it. If that person REALLY wishes to kill he/she WILL kill, guns are not required. It is a tool that will allow more to be done faster, but if you think high body counts REQUIRE a gun, you are mistaken. As late as last year, in Canada, two brothers killed 10 and injured 18 using knives. China struggles with mass murder by knife.

Background checks are useful, but they are not infallible. There may be nothing in a person's background to suggest they are a threat when the investigation is done. Now they could mandate that there be some sort of psychiatric sign off on each BI, but that still won't make it foolproof AND there would need to be strict rules in place to prevent ideological misuse of that addition, to save us all from people like YOU, who can't separate bias from their duties.
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Safety Blitz wrote: October 27th, 2023, 10:01 am Republicans love Ar 15s....won't even pass background checks. Republicans are evil and dangerous.
Says the man whose party supports terrorist groups, unchecked rioting, release of violent felons with no bail, 6 month probation sentences for serial rapists, abortion up through birth, collusion on censorship, not to mention the WHO, WEF and the UN, all with increasingly unhinged ideas on controlling the entire worlds population under their vision.

YeaH ..nothing evil THERE.
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GoldenRam wrote: October 27th, 2023, 1:09 pm
Safety Blitz wrote: October 27th, 2023, 10:01 am Republicans love Ar 15s....won't even pass background checks. Republicans are evil and dangerous.
Says the man whose party supports terrorist groups, unchecked rioting, release of violent felons with no bail, 6 month probation sentences for serial rapists, abortion up through birth, collusion on censorship, not to mention the WHO, WEF and the UN, all with increasingly unhinged ideas on controlling the entire worlds population under their vision.

YeaH ..nothing evil THERE.
well said GR.
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You idiots support Trump....a vile law breaking fraud. End of story. Denounce the pussy grabber and insurrectionist .
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Safety Blitz wrote: October 27th, 2023, 1:48 pm You idiots support Trump....a vile law breaking fraud. End of story. Denounce the pussy grabber and insurrectionist .
The only mistake that happened on Jan 6th was that the "insurrection" was not a real one.
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Safety Blitz wrote: October 27th, 2023, 1:48 pm You idiots support Trump....a vile law breaking fraud. End of story. Denounce the pussy grabber and insurrectionist .
You mean like another hero of yours..I can guarantee you voted for Hillary Clinton..tell us how she's a law abiding politician?

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Henry VIII wrote: October 27th, 2023, 2:08 pm
Safety Blitz wrote: October 27th, 2023, 1:48 pm You idiots support Trump....a vile law breaking fraud. End of story. Denounce the pussy grabber and insurrectionist .
You mean like another hero of yours..I can guarantee you voted for Hillary Clinton..tell us how she's a law abiding politician?

Ohhh he doesn't care. They never do in almost all cases. Nazis and Communists will always justify the ends.
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Safety Blitz wrote: October 27th, 2023, 10:01 am Republicans love Ar 15s....won't even pass background checks. Republicans are evil and dangerous.
Safety…
Are you really that politicized? Backgrounds checks are already in place have in been since God knows when.

It is foolish and quite candidly completely disingenuous and flat out dishonest to blame the republicans. I am not a Republican, but if you going to spew hatred towards a political group, at least try to do it honestly.
The fact is (and you know it) ALL the major cities where endless and daily shootings happen are run by democrats. All OF THEM without exception. The push to “defund the police” has resulted in countless deaths and the zero bail policy has directly contributed to killings. Right off the top of my head, I can cite several killings that occurred here in So Cal that were the direct result of releasing hardcore felons back into society when they should have held without bail.

I am not that political but if you are honest, you have to acknowledge that the leftists do one thing and ONLY one thing very well…. The idiotic policies they embrace get people killed. Those who vote for them aren’t innocent, they are accomplices. This includes you.
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HellRam wrote: October 27th, 2023, 2:19 pm
Henry VIII wrote: October 27th, 2023, 2:08 pm

You mean like another hero of yours..I can guarantee you voted for Hillary Clinton..tell us how she's a law abiding politician?

Ohhh he doesn't care. They never do in almost all cases. Nazis and Communists will always justify the ends.
What's so scary you are probably right..he doesn't care..but yet he's happy to go along with a known corrupt President who has us a collision course with WWIII and he doesn't say shit..we are knocking on a world crisis and he's upset because Trump might have grabbed pussy? What a full on flaming idiot!
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Henry VIII wrote: October 27th, 2023, 2:26 pm
HellRam wrote: October 27th, 2023, 2:19 pm

Ohhh he doesn't care. They never do in almost all cases. Nazis and Communists will always justify the ends.
What's so scary you are probably right..he doesn't care..but yet he's happy to go along with a known corrupt President who has us a collision course with WWIII and he doesn't say shit..we are knocking on a world crisis and he's upset because Trump might have grabbed pussy? What a full on flaming idiot!
Progressives throughout world history have been fine with putting anyone they oppose in concentration camps. Modern day Democrats are no different than the Progressives in Nazi Germany. Same exact idealogs and belief systems. These people will kill for thier movement. So obviously corruption from their leaders means absolutely nothing to them. If anything they are upset the leaders are not more corrupt and totalitarian.

This why I don't debate most on the far left. I mean would you debate Nazi's in WW2? The sooner the right wakes up and acts accordingly the better. However, as you know I have my reservations of that ever happening. Atleast before its too late.
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Keep sending defendant Trump money for his countless legal word. You're supporting a criminal who has dragged the country into a red cesspool
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Safety Blitz wrote: October 27th, 2023, 2:54 pm Keep sending defendant Trump money for his countless legal word. You're supporting a criminal who has dragged the country into a red cesspool
Exhibit A.
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