$100-140M CAP SPACE '24?... It is possible.

[DelMar]

Some projections have had us at around $75M in CAP Space when we start the new season. But as I am looking at some current contracts, which is almost 70% of the big 3... something in me thinks Snead is going to be forcing some renegotiations.

Stafford: I just do not see us paying Stafford $50M next season, so I am positive the Rams will force redoing the contract, and the reason they may win is because they will sit Stafford down, and maybe even show him what Tom Brady did, in team friendly deals. Stafford is not an idiot and he knows if he wants to win and be protected, he needs the best supporting cast around him.

Notedoom: man, what a mistake this was by us. His dead cap next season is $15M and his Salary is $20M... so do we take the $5M hit and cut our losses w this dude?

Kupp: I think we just redo his contract again. I dont think hes going anywhere. Not w a dead cap of $47M, while is CAP is only $29.8M.

AD: This one is a real pickle. Cap hit is $34M and Dead Cap is $33.5M. I truly have no idea what to do w this contract other than renegotiate it.

Havs: Cap is $14M Dead Cap $12M. I think we cut him if he does not redo his deal. He has been average AT BEST this season imo.

Staff and AD could retire. If they did, that brings us an astounding $83.6M in CAP Space (that is not included in the already $70M in '24 cap space projections)

I think we will be seeing a lot of fireworks this off season.

Your thoughts?

[RamPower]

Some projections have had us at around $75M in CAP Space when we start the new season. But as I am looking at some current contracts, which is almost 70% of the big 3... something in me thinks Snead is going to be forcing some renegotiations.

Stafford: I just do not see us paying Stafford $50M next season, so I am positive the Rams will force redoing the contract, and the reason they may win is because they will sit Stafford down, and maybe even show him what Tom Brady did, in team friendly deals. Stafford is not an idiot and he knows if he wants to win and be protected, he needs the best supporting cast around him.

Notedoom: man, what a mistake this was by us. His dead cap next season is $15M and his Salary is $20M... so do we take the $5M hit and cut our losses w this dude?

Kupp: I think we just redo his contract again. I dont think hes going anywhere. Not w a dead cap of $47M, while is CAP is only $29.8M.

AD: This one is a real pickle. Cap hit is $34M and Dead Cap is $33.5M. I truly have no idea what to do w this contract other than renegotiate it.

Havs: Cap is $14M Dead Cap $12M. I think we cut him if he does not redo his deal. He has been average AT BEST this season imo.

Staff and AD could retire. If they did, that brings us an astounding $83.6M in CAP Space (that is not included in the already $70M in '24 cap space projections)

I think we will be seeing a lot of fireworks this off season.

Your thoughts?

My thought is, great job with this post DM. It will be interesting, but I say AD stays (along with Kupp).

[ocram23]

trade deadline is over but I would not have been upset if they traded AD for draft picks.

[malibu]

Some projections have had us at around $75M in CAP Space when we start the new season. But as I am looking at some current contracts, which is almost 70% of the big 3... something in me thinks Snead is going to be forcing some renegotiations.

Stafford: I just do not see us paying Stafford $50M next season, so I am positive the Rams will force redoing the contract, and the reason they may win is because they will sit Stafford down, and maybe even show him what Tom Brady did, in team friendly deals. Stafford is not an idiot and he knows if he wants to win and be protected, he needs the best supporting cast around him.

Notedoom: man, what a mistake this was by us. His dead cap next season is $15M and his Salary is $20M... so do we take the $5M hit and cut our losses w this dude?

Kupp: I think we just redo his contract again. I dont think hes going anywhere. Not w a dead cap of $47M, while is CAP is only $29.8M.

AD: This one is a real pickle. Cap hit is $34M and Dead Cap is $33.5M. I truly have no idea what to do w this contract other than renegotiate it.

Havs: Cap is $14M Dead Cap $12M. I think we cut him if he does not redo his deal. He has been average AT BEST this season imo.

Staff and AD could retire. If they did, that brings us an astounding $83.6M in CAP Space (that is not included in the already $70M in '24 cap space projections)

I think we will be seeing a lot of fireworks this off season.

Your thoughts?

Question I asked this in another thread if a ayer retires from the NFL does the team still need to carry the dead cap $ or is it relieved?

For whatever reason casteophic injury or age or years of wear and tear on the body it isn't fair that a team is bound to that dead cap $. Because it almost forces teams to say okay if we are stuck with the dead cap you need to keep playing if able to.

Love to know how it works.

[brasilrams]

Stafford should take a pay cut to around 15 per year. He is not worth more than that

[brasilrams]

Stafford should take a pay cut to around 15 per year. He is not worth more than that

I totally agree but it’s highly unlikely that will happen.
50mil next year is absurd.

[Guest]

Fantasy island maybe but when is the last time you saw an NFL player take a cut in pay to stay with a team. Kupp, Stafford and AD could easily say no and force the Rams to release them. They already got a lot of the money left on their books and have guarantees for some of the rest. They could easily just say no and then if they get released go play elsewhere for some extra money in the city of their choice. If the Rams don’t want to pay them then they should not have extended them. It’s just not happening. Sorry but that’s reality.

[DelMar]

Fantasy island maybe but when is the last time you saw an NFL player take a cut in pay to stay with a team. Kupp, Stafford and AD could easily say no and force the Rams to release them. They already got a lot of the money left on their books and have guarantees for some of the rest. They could easily just say no and then if they get released go play elsewhere for some extra money in the city of their choice. If the Rams don’t want to pay them then they should not have extended them. It’s just not happening. Sorry but that’s reality.

I should have been my clear here. My bad.

My point was that the Rams may try and renegotiate a lower amount, yes. But we all know that wont happen. So, what we will most likely do is renegotiate the terms on payment to lower our cap, therefore basically kick the can down the road more.... like we have done w Kupp already twice. But this may not work on Stafford as he already declined doing this last season. So if he does it again and refuses to adjust the terms (again), we maybe stuck w him.

There is a number of ways you can make more cap space. That was my point.

[ocram23]

as he wouldn't this year, and that is why they tried to trade him in the off season, Stafford will not take a pay cut nor restructure. this albatross of a contract is going to be there until its entirety unfortunately

[NorCal RF]

as he wouldn't this year, and that is why they tried to trade him in the off season, Stafford will not take a pay cut nor restructure. this albatross of a contract is going to be there until its entirety unfortunately

This^

And why would Stafford? Take one’s Rams hat off for a second and then ask would you? I sure the hell wouldn’t unless it financially benefits me even more. And save the if he wants to win crap. He still knows beat up or not that he is still the best option for next year. And why as fans would we want him particularly to kick the can down the road again. I want his contract eventually gone under its current years remaining.

We are getting a glimpse into what will be needed going into next year. Big time secondary help, continued upgrades at OL even though it has improved, and an actual legit back up QB. One can’t say RB until Evans is given a legit chance. And it would be nice to improve at TE. DL is getting better every game. They have the resources next year to address all.

[Ramsfan08ny]

as he wouldn't this year, and that is why they tried to trade him in the off season, Stafford will not take a pay cut nor restructure. this albatross of a contract is going to be there until its entirety unfortunately

This^

And why would Stafford? Take one’s Rams hat off for a second and then ask would you? I sure the hell wouldn’t unless it financially benefits me even more. And save the if he wants to win crap. He still knows beat up or not that he is still the best option for next year. And why as fans would we want him particularly to kick the can down the road again. I want his contract eventually gone under its current years remaining.

We are getting a glimpse into what will be needed going into next year. Big time secondary help, continued upgrades at OL even though it has improved, and an actual legit back up QB. One can’t say RB until Evans is given a legit chance. And it would be nice to improve at TE. DL is getting better every game. They have the resources next year to address all.

It's the dilemma all teams will go through. You get a franchise QB you better win at least once during his prime years. When starting QBs are going 40-60 mil per year, they are both franchise saviors, and franchise killers. You can only kick the can do many times, and so far down the road before that suped up sports car has nothing left, and it's now out dated by the newer, and better versions. Rams are at that point. One day it will even happen to the Chiefs. Unavoidable.

[ocram23]

as he wouldn't this year, and that is why they tried to trade him in the off season, Stafford will not take a pay cut nor restructure. this albatross of a contract is going to be there until its entirety unfortunately

This^

And why would Stafford? Take one’s Rams hat off for a second and then ask would you? I sure the hell wouldn’t unless it financially benefits me even more. And save the if he wants to win crap. He still knows beat up or not that he is still the best option for next year. And why as fans would we want him particularly to kick the can down the road again. I want his contract eventually gone under its current years remaining.

We are getting a glimpse into what will be needed going into next year. Big time secondary help, continued upgrades at OL even though it has improved, and an actual legit back up QB. One can’t say RB until Evans is given a legit chance. And it would be nice to improve at TE. DL is getting better every game. They have the resources next year to address all.

depending how the season goes and depending who is there in the draft will they use their 1st pick on a QB. Here is another scenario if you could get Justin Fields for a 3rd rounder would you do it? Get him under McVay for a year and have Stafford play in 2024 then move onto Fields in 2025? I for one think you can fix Fields with the right coach. But I do agree with you big time secondary help, DL, LB, OL not in any order. Lot of players needed

[NorCal RF]

This^

And why would Stafford? Take one’s Rams hat off for a second and then ask would you? I sure the hell wouldn’t unless it financially benefits me even more. And save the if he wants to win crap. He still knows beat up or not that he is still the best option for next year. And why as fans would we want him particularly to kick the can down the road again. I want his contract eventually gone under its current years remaining.

We are getting a glimpse into what will be needed going into next year. Big time secondary help, continued upgrades at OL even though it has improved, and an actual legit back up QB. One can’t say RB until Evans is given a legit chance. And it would be nice to improve at TE. DL is getting better every game. They have the resources next year to address all.

depending how the season goes and depending who is there in the draft will they use their 1st pick on a QB. Here is another scenario if you could get Justin Fields for a 3rd rounder would you do it? Get him under McVay for a year and have Stafford play in 2024 then move onto Fields in 2025? I for one think you can fix Fields with the right coach. But I do agree with you big time secondary help, DL, LB, OL not in any order. Lot of players needed

I don’t agree lots of players needed. Again DL is ok n getting better. OL is fine with Jackson, Dotson, and Avila. We knew nothing about those three 3 months ago. They are an above average foundation. It’s the secondary that is becoming quite obvious this team needs a rather big upgrade. And backup QB because this team is better if the 35 year old QB doesn’t have to play all 17. So……..

For a 3rd yep I would take Fields. I wouldn’t give up anything higher, and there may be a QB in draft with a potential better future, but Ive seen enough of Fields that yes with a
better offensive environment he could definitely get better. We know what Mayfield has said about his short time with McVay…….

[NorCal RF]

This^

And why would Stafford? Take one’s Rams hat off for a second and then ask would you? I sure the hell wouldn’t unless it financially benefits me even more. And save the if he wants to win crap. He still knows beat up or not that he is still the best option for next year. And why as fans would we want him particularly to kick the can down the road again. I want his contract eventually gone under its current years remaining.

We are getting a glimpse into what will be needed going into next year. Big time secondary help, continued upgrades at OL even though it has improved, and an actual legit back up QB. One can’t say RB until Evans is given a legit chance. And it would be nice to improve at TE. DL is getting better every game. They have the resources next year to address all.

It's the dilemma all teams will go through. You get a franchise QB you better win at least once during his prime years. When starting QBs are going 40-60 mil per year, they are both franchise saviors, and franchise killers. You can only kick the can do many times, and so far down the road before that suped up sports car has nothing left, and it's now out dated by the newer, and better versions. Rams are at that point. One day it will even happen to the Chiefs. Unavoidable.

And it’s going to happen to the niners that some think can’t do anything wrong as soon as possibly next year. At some point they are going to have to pay a QB too……….

[ocram23]

depending how the season goes and depending who is there in the draft will they use their 1st pick on a QB. Here is another scenario if you could get Justin Fields for a 3rd rounder would you do it? Get him under McVay for a year and have Stafford play in 2024 then move onto Fields in 2025? I for one think you can fix Fields with the right coach. But I do agree with you big time secondary help, DL, LB, OL not in any order. Lot of players needed

I don’t agree lots of players needed. Again DL is ok n getting better. OL is fine with Jackson, Dotson, and Avila. We knew nothing about those three 3 months ago. They are an above average foundation. It’s the secondary that is becoming quite obvious this team needs a rather big upgrade. And backup QB because this team is better if the 35 year old QB doesn’t have to play all 17. So……..

For a 3rd yep I would take Fields. I wouldn’t give up anything higher, and there may be a QB in draft with a potential better future, but Ive seen enough of Fields that yes with a
better offensive environment he could definitely get better. We know what Mayfield has said about his short time with McVay…….

they need a LT and a C IMO either via FA or the draft. Secondary is a disaster I agree. Pisses me off they didn't do their homework on Bennett

[NorCal RF]

I don’t agree lots of players needed. Again DL is ok n getting better. OL is fine with Jackson, Dotson, and Avila. We knew nothing about those three 3 months ago. They are an above average foundation. It’s the secondary that is becoming quite obvious this team needs a rather big upgrade. And backup QB because this team is better if the 35 year old QB doesn’t have to play all 17. So……..

For a 3rd yep I would take Fields. I wouldn’t give up anything higher, and there may be a QB in draft with a potential better future, but Ive seen enough of Fields that yes with a
better offensive environment he could definitely get better. We know what Mayfield has said about his short time with McVay…….

they need a LT and a C IMO either via FA or the draft. Secondary is a disaster I agree. Pisses me off they didn't do their homework on Bennett

I can’t get too worked up about Bennett. It’s life but just me………

Center yes no argument. I’m not disappointed in Jackson considering he has been dinged up a bit. His play hasn’t been that bad. In fact I think it’s been good. It’s Havs that needs to be replaced soon…………

I think though we agree they have enough resources this off season to do what they feel needs to be addressed. No more kicking the can on big contracts. Those players got their $$$$$, we know why and they got the job done which is damn hard to do, now it’s about riding out those contracts. And all still have a fair about to offer if rather healthy over the next year or so…………

[Truth]

Even if you had all that cap space, you still need available free agents to spend that money on. I linked the top 100 free agents from last year, other than franchise tackles, there really weren’t many legit pro bowl caliber difference makers hitting unrestricted free agency bc most teams don’t let their prime players get to free agency.

So huge cap space doesn’t necessarily mean we can efficiently spend that money if the pool of talent is low

Different sport but I remember one summer the Lakers cleared cap space only to land Luol Deng and Tim Mozgof. I haven’t looked at the upcoming free agents or even restricted free agents the Rams could poison pill teams with but that’s what we need to know

Who are the free agents that the Rams should target after the season?

[Henry VIII]

Target Josh Allen or Danielle Hunter at DE..and of course the Rams will make a run at Burns again too. Look at CB Jaylon Johnson..Mike Onwenu as a replacement Tackle. Then get a Top QB in the draft and cross your fingers!

[ocram23]

Target Josh Allen or Danielle Hunter at DE..and of course the Rams will make a run at Burns again too. Look at CB Jaylon Johnson..Mike Onwenu as a replacement Tackle. Then get a Top QB in the draft and cross your fingers!

taking a run at a Burns type player is going to cost way too much. need to fill this team up with multiple additions not just one big one IMO

[GlendoraRam]

From what I have read, Brian Burns is seeking 28-30 per year. So far this year, he has 5 sacks.
Is that value? I am not sure. We have to very smart in who we sign.

[ocram23]

From what I have read, Brian Burns is seeking 28-30 per year. So far this year, he has 5 sacks.
Is that value? I am not sure. We have to very smart in who we sign.

yes and he is going to want a multi year contract. he will take up most of our cap space.....HARD NO

[RAMFAN71]

I disagree that our OL is in good shape. It's in BETTER shape. I don't think AJ is the answer at LT, and obvious we need a C. We need a cohesive line to learn to work together. Also, AJ tends to get hurt. I like him as a backup. Keep drafting big boys, and focus on a LT for sure. Hopefully McClendon can replace Havs at some point? But need to think about that spot too.

[RamPower]

I disagree that our OL is in good shape. It's in BETTER shape. I don't think AJ is the answer at LT, and obvious we need a C. We need a cohesive line to learn to work together. Also, AJ tends to get hurt. I like him as a backup. Keep drafting big boys, and focus on a LT for sure. Hopefully McClendon can replace Havs at some point? But need to think about that spot too.

I know there's room to grow...but you're not good with, "According to Pro Football Focus, the Rams’ pass-blocking grade of 47.8 ranks 30th in the NFL, though their run-blocking grade (64.9) is the 12th-best.

PFF ranked every offensive line through eight weeks this season and the Rams came in at No. 26."?

30th in pass pro is concerning (in a passing League no less), I agree that's not in good shape.

[Henry VIII]

Target Josh Allen or Danielle Hunter at DE..and of course the Rams will make a run at Burns again too. Look at CB Jaylon Johnson..Mike Onwenu as a replacement Tackle. Then get a Top QB in the draft and cross your fingers!

taking a run at a Burns type player is going to cost way too much. need to fill this team up with multiple additions not just one big one IMO

Yes that's why I listed him 3rd on my target list of DE..but the Rams are in love with him. I would pass on him and his contract demands.