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Rams needs greater than we thought?

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On O we must have a legit LT and C - Jackson & Shelton are not NFL starters - RB with size & some tackle breaking ability. Atwell limits what an O can due because of his size . Higbee is limited but has been extended ( mistake IMO) Stafford must stay but a legit backup QB is paramount. The OL has no respectable depth. Our D needs an Edge pass rusher - 2 LB who can run and tackle & big DT to play with AD / Heocht is a DL not a Lb but can backup inside. The Ram D is small and physically weak and attempts to play a read and react cup cake style favored by the DC. The secondary has no real talent beyond Witherspoon so near total rebuild back there. IMO there is very little talent on this team & any players added to this D are rotational pieces only . In summary , OL must be top priority to ensure MS survival and sustain some type of O continuity - so - it is a real task but the Draft needs 5-6 legit picks and FA needs to yield at least 4 players who matter . The HC & DC are not beyond some serious review as well.
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Rams need a LT and C agreed rest of O is basically fine.

We need a great OLB, NT maybe a #1 CB. Not sure on kicker yet but definitely a better punt returner.

Very manageable in FA OLB/CB. Draft LT, C, K. Plus extra players. .
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Rams FO must show they acknowledge these needs & draft and sign the appropriate players - I am not sold on their ability to do this so A close watch is on.
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Would love to get that kid from OSU at RB somehow...but we have other pressing needs. This conversation really takes shape at the end when we know our spots.
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Bottom line is we are not a good football team
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No question about that - it is an extensive job that can be pulled off - but we need to hit a lot of home runs to come back quickly.
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Overall , this is easily the weakest Rams roster I've seen since I became a dyed-in-the-wool Rams fan in 1955(!). Anyone here who actually believes that there is going to be some sort of monumental turnaround in 2024 is fooling themself.

A good friend of mine is a former and very well-known and successful Rams OC, He agrees that Demoff/Snead have doomed this franchise to years of mediocrity.
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Guest wrote: November 7th, 2023, 6:29 am Overall , this is easily the weakest Rams roster I've seen since I became a dyed-in-the-wool Rams fan in 1955(!). Anyone here who actually believes that there is going to be some sort of monumental turnaround in 2024 is fooling themself.

A good friend of mine is a very well-known and successful former Rams OC, He agrees that Demoff/Snead have doomed this franchise to years of mediocrity.
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Guest wrote: November 7th, 2023, 6:29 am Overall , this is easily the weakest Rams roster I've seen since I became a dyed-in-the-wool Rams fan in 1955(!). Anyone here who actually believes that there is going to be some sort of monumental turnaround in 2024 is fooling themself.

A good friend of mine is a former and very well-known and successful Rams OC, He agrees that Demoff/Snead have doomed this franchise to years of mediocrity.
That's odd, bc the Rams hit on many of their 2023 picks, has all their high picks in 2024, a load of cap money in 2024, all their top players signed through 2025, while having the 2nd youngest roster in the NFL.
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Guest wrote: November 7th, 2023, 6:29 am Overall , this is easily the weakest Rams roster I've seen since I became a dyed-in-the-wool Rams fan in 1955(!). Anyone here who actually believes that there is going to be some sort of monumental turnaround in 2024 is fooling themself.

A good friend of mine is a former and very well-known and successful Rams OC, He agrees that Demoff/Snead have doomed this franchise to years of mediocrity.
I disagree, bc the Rams hit on many of their 2023 picks, has all their high picks in 2024, a load of cap money in 2024, all their top players signed through 2025, while having the 2nd youngest roster in the NFL.

Rams have the money and high picks to address LT, Center, QB to groom, DB and Edge.
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We are far from doomed. There's a lot of crappy teams out there just like the Rams right now. Just need to fill in with talent- which is the point of the draft order. We were crap in 2016 too....next year we were a playoff team on the rise. Just need to keep adding the right players.

Look at the Chargers..they have a lot of great talent on both sides. Cannot win more than half their games. I think the coaching needs to improve as well for the Rams...not just talking McVay. All the coaches.
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Opinions here vary quite a bit - we are playing more than a few players significant minutes out of necessity- this does not mean they are legit players or foundation pieces - IMO the OL and DL are really lacking in talent and need more than a few plug in players to click up to the next level . May be 2 years of doing it “all right” in draft and FA action to get back / there are many gaps on this squad & the decision makers are question marks to get it done right on top of all this .
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Guest wrote: November 7th, 2023, 6:29 am

A good friend of mine is a former and very well-known and successful Rams OC, He agrees that Demoff/Snead have doomed this franchise to years of mediocrity.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm-k.

Your friend must be part of the Rams bad years when he was OC. Because when we hit this off season and have these many pics lined up (as of today in screen shot below). Maybe between $75-$110M in CAP SPACE, $20k in DEAD CAL total....

Yes, we are so doomed. WTH? Things couldn't be more promising imo. I couldn't be more excited and hopeful.

(the Dumoff part I agree, that boner has killed us from the uniforms on down in that department)
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DelMar wrote: November 7th, 2023, 11:05 am
Guest wrote: November 7th, 2023, 6:29 am

A good friend of mine is a former and very well-known and successful Rams OC, He agrees that Demoff/Snead have doomed this franchise to years of mediocrity.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm-k.

Your friend must be part of the Rams bad years when he was OC. Because when we hit this off season and have these many pics lined up (as of today in screen shot below). Maybe between $75-$110M in CAP SPACE, $20k in DEAD CAL total....

Yes, we are so doomed. WTH? Things couldn't be more promising imo. I couldn't be more excited and hopeful.

(the Dumoff part I agree, that boner has killed us from the uniforms on down in that department)
My friend was OC when the Rams were VERY successful (pre-St. Louis days). Of course he (and I) could be wrong, but the guy does know pro-ball inside and out.
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We need to start with LT; surely we can find a top prospect with our first round pick. Then a good C in the 2nd round.

That would have immediate impact on our Offensive operation.

FA should provide us with an Edge and a LB, CB. A big RB and a TE that can block AND catch would be helpful too.
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We need to start with LT; surely we can find a top prospect with our first round pick. Then a good C in the 2nd round.

That would have immediate impact on our Offensive operation.

FA should provide us with an Edge and a LB, CB. A big RB and a TE that can block AND catch would be helpful too.
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Guest wrote: November 7th, 2023, 11:23 am
DelMar wrote: November 7th, 2023, 11:05 am


Hmmmmmmmmmmm-k.

Your friend must be part of the Rams bad years when he was OC. Because when we hit this off season and have these many pics lined up (as of today in screen shot below). Maybe between $75-$110M in CAP SPACE, $20k in DEAD CAL total....

Yes, we are so doomed. WTH? Things couldn't be more promising imo. I couldn't be more excited and hopeful.

(the Dumoff part I agree, that boner has killed us from the uniforms on down in that department)
My friend was OC when the Rams were VERY successful (pre-St. Louis days). Of course he (and I) could be wrong, but the guy does know pro-ball inside and out.

Then he should be more optimist for the reasons I stated imo
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who thought our needs weren't that great? anyone that saw this roster at the beginning of the year knew this was one of the worst rosters in the NFL. add zero possibilities of injuries this just adds to the lack of success.
I have said this all year they need to go out and get 3 OL for next year. I do not want to hear about Hav, Noteboom and Jackson being good players because they are not. Now I am not saying Jackson isn't serviceable but he is average IMO. The secondary is a complete disaster that needs to be addressed along with the DL. lots of holes
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Guest wrote: November 7th, 2023, 6:29 am Overall , this is easily the weakest Rams roster I've seen since I became a dyed-in-the-wool Rams fan in 1955(!). Anyone here who actually believes that there is going to be some sort of monumental turnaround in 2024 is fooling themself.

A good friend of mine is a former and very well-known and successful Rams OC, He agrees that Demoff/Snead have doomed this franchise to years of mediocrity.
You mean weakest Los Angeles Rams roster? Surely you aren't including the many St. Louis disasters?

And did the St. Lou Rams ever have an OC other than Martz that was worth anything? (i.e."successful"). I'm guessing Martz was still fully controlling the offense once he became HC (until he began the Rams evolution into one of the worst NFL franchises in history)...
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